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Recall Arnold?

by: Robert Cruickshank

Sun Sep 07, 2008 at 10:58:27 AM PDT


That's what the Correctional Officers are considering, according to Matier and Ross:

Well-placed Sacramento sources tell us the state's politically powerful and well-financed prison guards union has lawyers drawing up language for a recall initiative.

Word is, the union will decide within the next couple of weeks whether to hit the streets with petitions....

Asked about the recall rumor, union spokesman Lance Corcoran said, "I can't comment other than to say we are taking a very hard look at it."

I'm not surprised this is being considered - given that Arnold's governorship has been a complete failure, and that he still has over two years left in office, it makes sense that someone would try to replace failed leadership with something better.

On the merits alone Arnold deserves to be recalled. His failures as governor have caused the state worse pain than anything Gray Davis did. Arnold's tax cuts and borrowing to pay for core services have broken our budget. He was nearly AWOL on the budget this year, and when he did get involved, it was to petulantly refuse to sign any new bills, breaking government even further. He wanted to make state workers suffer instead of doing the hard but necessary work of pushing Republicans to agree to a budget.

But a recall is a political act and has political consequences and it's on those grounds that we need to assess it. A recall vote would likely take place sometime in 2009, with the next gubernatorial race taking place just one year later. That would entail a lot of campaigning and perhaps not so much governing.

A recall, as we saw in 2003, is unpredictable and even more personality-driven than normal. It also lacks a party primary, which is especially important for the Democrats. Given the number of big names showing interest in the 2010 nomination, a primary is the best way to not only choose from those candidates but to provide a referendum on the future of California Democrats - whether we'll embrace a progressive future or remain mired in a corporatist past.

The recall by contrast doesn't offer that opportunity. Because of the open field Dems would have to unite early around one candidate, who might not be the best Dem around. Democrats might well be better off waiting until 2010.

It's also not clear whether a recall alone would accomplish significant change. The 2003 recall clearly didn't solve California's problems - instead it brought into sharper view the real issue - the 2/3 rule and Republican exploitation of it for their far-right purposes. Getting rid of Arnold has its value, but it wouldn't necessarily make the 2009 or 2010 budget cycles any easier.

None of that is to say it's a bad idea to pursue a recall of Arnold. But neither does it deserve our knee-jerk support. I'd be more interested in constructing a coalition to fix our state government and help California weather the worsening economic crisis, through fundamental structural reforms. That needs to be our focus, and we should consider an Arnold recall if it will get us closer to those goals.

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Recall Arnold? | 16 comments
Does it really make sense? (8.00 / 1)
Arnold is almost out of there, and then we can elect a progressive for 2010 instead of risking DiFi winning on name recognition alone in a 2009 recall.

My Blog, The Watchtower

No, it doesn't, but that's never stopped the Republicans before (0.00 / 0)
... who is the candidate they've got waiting in the wings for this deal ?

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DiFi (8.00 / 2)
Even if they lose, they win.  

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my feeling is that if arnold puts another special election up (8.00 / 1)
his recall should be one of the ballot items.

would that the democrats had had the stones to recall him during the 2005 special election. or, for that matter, that they had bothered to oppose him in any meaningful way since 2003.

a little late now, although it's be poetic to ride him out of town on the same rail he rode in on.

surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat


Two questions: could a recall truly succeed ... (0.00 / 0)
...against the governor? And, if it didn't, would it damage him or help him should he decide to take on Senator Boxer. The answers to those questions would cement my support or opposition.

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two answers (0.00 / 0)
1. hard to say, but if we're going to have another damn election, i want his ass on the line. i'm sick to shit of his permanent revolution.

2. not sure it matters with boxer, i think she's bulletproof. my concern would be if feinstein retired, and he ran against some tepid dem pencilneck* in the general.

*noone in mind, really, but you know the type.

surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat


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Recall Arnold (0.00 / 0)
 Here's the obvious solution. Qualify two constitution amendments--one, lowering the vote for a budget to a simple majority, and two, raising taxes only one the wealthy (by an increase in the top tax rates). It would take about 6 months for
these to get through the entire initiative process, so count on 6 months (March).

Do the following also. Get Swartznegger to agree to call a special election. If he won't agree, add a recall against him, which would force a special (he will call the special rather than suffer through the ignomy of a recall). Then, both house pass a "contingent" budget--that is, contingent on the revenue increases. If the revenue increases are not forthcoming (by an affirmative vote of the people), the contingent budget would specify cuts such as the Republicans have been suggesting, particularly for schools. This would probably mean an end to all inter-scholastic athletics, for example.

My feeling is that both of these initiatives will pass, but the Democrats only really need one to pass to be effective. If the budget can be passed by a majority, program allocation rules can be modified to disadvantage districts where the representatives did not support reasonable revenue enhancements (this type of reallocation from urban to suburban/rural districts took place when the Republicans took over Congress in 1994). If the revenue-enhancment measure passes and the majority rule does not, then there will be enough revenue to fix the budget for the forseeable future.

It is time for Democrats to realize that the people are on the Democrats side and appeal directly to the people. This is one way to do it.


And two more ... (0.00 / 0)
propositions need to be on the same ballot:

(1) that if the governor is recalled, the lieutenant governor is the automatic replacement ... and this should take effect immediately to negate the selection of a replacement by a small percentage of voters choosing from a long list of candidates.  

(2) raise the level of signatures needed to recall elected officials and to get propositions on the ballot.


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and so much more (0.00 / 0)
When is somebody finally going to call for a constitutional convention? Please.  

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Hear, Hear! (0.00 / 0)
Been thinking about this for a while now.  Let's look for a sympathetic person in the California Assembly or State Senate to bring this up.  The threat of a Constitutional Convention is one way the people -- through their state legislatures -- can put pressure on the federal government.  The 20th century industrial age national security state alone should provide plenty of reasons:

- U. S. still dependent upon oil
- inability of our gazillion dollar intelligence community to find one old bearded guy hooked up to a dialysis machine running around the Himalayas
- Iraq
- a Defense Department with fewer people in a long time but with a budget that keeps growing
- Can we get rid of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the unified commands?  The last time we won a war with this top-heavy organization was ... Panama?  Grenada?  Some "war" those were.  And the first Gulf War was planned in Air Force headquarters, outside of "normal" joint channels
- Meanwhile:
 -- India gets nuclear technonlogy
 -- France warns Iran about an Israeli strike
 -- etc.

And there is the national popular vote to do away with the electoral college.

I could go on but it is getting late.


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Is McClintock getting bored with the CA- 04 race already ? (0.00 / 0)
... after all, he was one of the eager participants in the Gray Davis recall and ran in 2003, coming in 3rd behind Arnold and Cruz Bustamente.

Since McClintock views these opportunities the way a Border Collie drools over a tennis ball held aloft,  how could he resist the chance to run again? He does have that state campaign account Gov 2010 ......


It would feel good (0.00 / 0)
It would feel so good to get rid of Arnold on recall.  It would be like the universe is put back in its proper place.  The only problem I have with it is that it would give CCPOA a renewed sense of importance.  They work to bring more jobs to their union--which means full support on every tough-on-crime BS they can think of.  Much of the budget mess that we are in was caused by CCPOA.

However, I'll just not think about how the recall came to be, but I will just be grateful if we get it.  We could easily get a DiFi or a Carly, or a Meg Whitman.  But why not a John Laird?  I know...I know...its the money.  But why not the best?


I'm not sure this is where we're needing to go. (8.00 / 1)
I don't think that Arnold is a good governor.  But the problem here is singular - the 2/3 majority for the budget.  It is a simple problem with a solution that, on paper, is simple.  And recalling Arnold does nothing to bring us closer to that solution - in fact, it moves us away from that solution because, once he's removed, people will think that he was the problem, and the problem has now been solved, when in reality, nothing changed.

We need to identify a way to abolish the 2/3 rule.


What we should do... (0.00 / 0)
Is let CCPOA move forward with the recall, then have all the relevant stakeholders (unions, enviro groups, party leadership etc.) decide on a caretaker candidate...someone who would be willing to make a sherman statement about not running in 2010, but someone who also has the experience to spend the next few years cleaning up the mess in Sacramento, and who would want that to be their defining legacy. I wonder what Gray Davis is up to these days...

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