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No on 8: Good Ideas Don't Need Lies to Sell Them

by: jsw

Thu Oct 09, 2008 at 13:58:57 PM PDT


Right now the Yes on 8 Campaign is telling so many lies in the service of eliminating rights for gay people that it's hard to keep track of all of them.  But I want to focus on just one lie for the moment, one from the first Yes on 8 TV Ad:

Churches could lose their tax exemptions

This is a lie.  Want to know how I know it's a lie?  Here's what the California Constitution currently says, right now, in Article I:

SEC. 4.  Free exercise and enjoyment of religion without discrimination or preference are guaranteed.  This liberty of conscience does not excuse acts that are licentious or inconsistent with the peace or safety of the State.  The Legislature shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

SEC. 8.  A person may not be disqualified from entering or pursuing a business, profession, vocation, or employment because of sex, race, creed, color, or national or ethnic origin.

SEC. 31.  (a) The State shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.

The last time I checked, Catholic priests can refuse to marry a couple if they're not both Catholic (and I assume if they haven't completed the various sacraments and classes required). Only Mormons in good standing can even attend a Mormon wedding inside a temple, and Mormon bishops can refuse to marry non-Mormons.

So why haven't the Catholic Church and the Church of Latter Day Saints lost their tax-exempt status in California, like Law Professor Peter Peterson says they might if gay people are allowed to marry and those churches refuse to marry them?  

Because churches are private actors, guaranteed freedom of religion in the California Constitution.  The elected Justices of the California Supreme Court made that very clear when they ruled, citing Article 1, Section 4 of the California Constitution, in a decision written by Republican Ronald George, that the State could no longer discriminate against gay people who wished to marry:

Finally, affording same-sex couples the opportunity to obtain the designation of marriage will not impinge upon the religious freedom of any religious organization, official, or any other person; no religion will be required to  change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no  religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his  or her religious beliefs.   (Cal. Const., art. I, ยง 4.)

So the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign, and Peter Peterson acting as their spokesman, are lying.  Under the California Constitution, in the very Supreme Court decision that they Yes on 8 campaign is so up in arms about, no church could lose its tax-exempt status for refusing to marry a gay couple or preaching that gay marriage is wrong.

Nothing that's a good idea needs to be sold with a lie.  Vote No on Proposition 8.  Don't corrupt our state's Constitution by taking rights away from people for the first time in our history.

I'm contributing to the No on 8 Campaign again, because I'm sick of the lies.  So should you: No on 8.    

jsw :: No on 8: Good Ideas Don't Need Lies to Sell Them
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You know, I wish chuches would lose (0.00 / 0)
their tax exemption.
The giant megachurch, Shepard of the Hills in Porter Ranch has "Yes on 8" signs posted every 10 feet on their road facing property. They went up overnight.
I've actually had a number of outraged library patrons venting to me today about how awful it made them feel to see those signs. "It made me physically ill this morning when I saw them." At least it was followed by, "I'm going to make sure everybody I know is voting against it. It's shameful for a church to use their power this way."

Well, they can't (0.00 / 0)
at least not for anything short of endorsing a candidate.  But it is ironic that the conservative churches trot that lie out as a smear-and-fear tactic almost every time they DO engage in politics.

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I know they can't. (0.00 / 0)
I just wish they could.  

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Blooming over night (0.00 / 0)
I guess they come in from China.  Hopefully you are right and the signs spur people to action.  Go out, Walk, Make calls.

No on 8!

I'm proud to work for Kamala Harris for AG, but my opinions are entirely my own.


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Bad Mormons in office like Walley Herger CA AD2! (0.00 / 0)
I think there are some bad mormons in office that sure help their religous beliefs. Like Walley Herger CA AD2. Look at his voting records over 22 yrs. He has voted agaist people men and women, if you are not rich! Look at his record here. www.dumpherger.org  He is one bad apple. Jeff Morris is a great progressive running against Herger in CA AD2. He needs your help!  Jeff Morris's webpage is:  www.jeffmorisforcongress.com  



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