{"id":13657,"date":"2011-07-06T20:13:09","date_gmt":"2011-07-06T20:13:09","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-07-06T20:13:09","modified_gmt":"2011-07-06T20:13:09","slug":"majority-vote-was-it-worth-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/2011\/07\/06\/majority-vote-was-it-worth-it\/","title":{"rendered":"Majority Vote: Was It Worth It?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.kennethburt.com\/about.html\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i15.photobucket.com\/albums\/a397\/utbriancl\/about-pelosi.jpg\" align=right border=\"0\" alt=\"Photobucket\"><\/a>Timm Herdt at the VC Star has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vcstar.com\/news\/2011\/jul\/05\/herdt-an-on-time-state-budget-thanks-to-prop-25\/\">a great profile of Kenneth Burt<\/a> (a really sincere, good guy) of the California Federation of Teachers and his idea for a majority vote measure focused only on the budget. &nbsp;There is a lot of background here. &nbsp;As we&#8217;ve been trying to get majority vote for both revenue and budget for a long time, the story is a complicated one.<\/p>\n<p>But, for the more recent history, you have to look back to at least 2004, when Prop 56 took a beating as it tried to change the threshold for both budget and revenue to 55%. &nbsp;Say what you want about how that initiative was managed, and there could really be a book about that, but it went down in flames. &nbsp;Chapters could include 55% vote vs simple majority, media strategy, and ads, to name a few. &nbsp;That being said, it did put a whole chunk of fear into left-leaning organizations vis a vis reducing the supermajority measures at the ballot. &nbsp;Burt and AFT, along with AFSCME, were not deterred and think it was an overall success:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Over the objections of progressive Democrats who wanted to take another shot at a majority-vote-for-everything initiative, Burt and his allies stuck with the art-of-the-possible approach.<\/p>\n<p>He is the first to admit that the majority-vote budget signed by Gov. Jerry Brown last week isn&#8217;t pretty. The spending reductions it includes are painful and regrettable, he says.<\/p>\n<p>But the majority-vote budget allowed two important things to happen, Burt argues.<\/p>\n<p>First, it allows school districts and local governments to make their plans for the coming year without being placed in a summer-long limbo, guessing what the state budget might look like.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, he says, &#8220;It prevented Republicans from demanding more special-interest corporate tax breaks in return for their votes.&#8221;(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vcstar.com\/news\/2011\/jul\/05\/herdt-an-on-time-state-budget-thanks-to-prop-25\/?partner=RSS#ixzz1RLh1fO3v\/\">VC Star<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Success is best judged more than a few weeks out from the process, but I think it is pretty hard to argue that that budget is any kind of success.<\/p>\n<p>I was at an event a few years ago where Alberto Torrico and Loni Hancock were debating the merits of a majority vote measure, but they differed on the question of whether to include revenue. &nbsp;As we&#8217;ve seen, the budget part was clearly possible, but what really happened is that Democrats now did the Republicans dirty work. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Republicans just sit on the sideline, demanding crazy stuff, and then proceed to do pretty much nothing. &nbsp;Meanwhile, the Democrats have to do what they didn&#8217;t want to do all along, with no support outside the party. &nbsp;So the Republicans got the cuts-only budget they&#8217;ve been wanting for years, and had to lay nothing on the line. &nbsp;And then when election time comes around, they rally against the cuts to county services, demanding that the state return money to the counties. &nbsp;Or, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2011\/07\/03\/county-supervisor-proposes-51st-state-cut-out-southern-california\/\">some idiot wants to secede<\/a> because his County lost some Vehicle License Fee money. &nbsp;Interesting that said idiot wasn&#8217;t calling for secession when we cut the VLF under Schwarzenegger and couldn&#8217;t pay for it.<\/p>\n<p>So, for the short-term, Prop 25 got us a budget. An ugly budget, but a budget nonetheless. &nbsp;Whether it was good for California in the long-run is still to be decided.<\/p>\n<p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.kennethburt.com\/about.html\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/i15.photobucket.com\/albums\/a397\/utbriancl\/about-pelosi.jpg\" align=right border=\"0\" alt=\"Photobucket\"><\/a>Timm Herdt at the VC Star has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vcstar.com\/news\/2011\/jul\/05\/herdt-an-on-time-state-budget-thanks-to-prop-25\/\">a great profile of Kenneth Burt<\/a> (a really sincere, good guy) of the California Federation of Teachers and his idea for a majority vote measure focused only on the budget. &nbsp;There is a lot of background here. &nbsp;As we&#8217;ve been trying to get majority vote for both revenue and budget for a long time, the story is a complicated one.<\/p>\n<p>But, for the more recent history, you have to look back to at least 2004, when Prop 56 took a beating as it tried to change the threshold for both budget and revenue to 55%. &nbsp;Say what you want about how that initiative was managed, and there could really be a book about that, but it went down in flames. &nbsp;Chapters could include 55% vote vs simple majority, media strategy, and ads, to name a few. &nbsp;That being said, it did put a whole chunk of fear into left-leaning organizations vis a vis reducing the supermajority measures at the ballot. &nbsp;Burt and AFT, along with AFSCME, were not deterred and think it was an overall success:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Over the objections of progressive Democrats who wanted to take another shot at a majority-vote-for-everything initiative, Burt and his allies stuck with the art-of-the-possible approach.<\/p>\n<p>He is the first to admit that the majority-vote budget signed by Gov. Jerry Brown last week isn&#8217;t pretty. The spending reductions it includes are painful and regrettable, he says.<\/p>\n<p>But the majority-vote budget allowed two important things to happen, Burt argues.<\/p>\n<p>First, it allows school districts and local governments to make their plans for the coming year without being placed in a summer-long limbo, guessing what the state budget might look like.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, he says, &#8220;It prevented Republicans from demanding more special-interest corporate tax breaks in return for their votes.&#8221;(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.vcstar.com\/news\/2011\/jul\/05\/herdt-an-on-time-state-budget-thanks-to-prop-25\/?partner=RSS#ixzz1RLh1fO3v\/\">VC Star<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Success is best judged more than a few weeks out from the process, but I think it is pretty hard to argue that that budget is any kind of success.<\/p>\n<p>I was at an event a few years ago where Alberto Torrico and Loni Hancock were debating the merits of a majority vote measure, but they differed on the question of whether to include revenue. &nbsp;As we&#8217;ve seen, the budget part was clearly possible, but what really happened is that Democrats now did the Republicans dirty work. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Republicans just sit on the sideline, demanding crazy stuff, and then proceed to do pretty much nothing. &nbsp;Meanwhile, the Democrats have to do what they didn&#8217;t want to do all along, with no support outside the party. &nbsp;So the Republicans got the cuts-only budget they&#8217;ve been wanting for years, and had to lay nothing on the line. &nbsp;And then when election time comes around, they rally against the cuts to county services, demanding that the state return money to the counties. &nbsp;Or, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/2011\/07\/03\/county-supervisor-proposes-51st-state-cut-out-southern-california\/\">some idiot wants to secede<\/a> because his County lost some Vehicle License Fee money. &nbsp;Interesting that said idiot wasn&#8217;t calling for secession when we cut the VLF under Schwarzenegger and couldn&#8217;t pay for it.<\/p>\n<p>So, for the short-term, Prop 25 got us a budget. An ugly budget, but a budget nonetheless. &nbsp;Whether it was good for California in the long-run is still to be decided.<\/p>\n<p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[],"tags":[6843,9088],"class_list":["post-13657","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-6843","tag-9088"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6Pvhz-3yh","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13657","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13657"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13657\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13657"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13657"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13657"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}