{"id":13833,"date":"2011-09-08T18:26:07","date_gmt":"2011-09-08T18:26:07","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-09-08T18:26:07","modified_gmt":"2011-09-08T18:26:07","slug":"the-amazon-deal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/2011\/09\/08\/the-amazon-deal\/","title":{"rendered":"The Amazon Deal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>To avoid ballot fight, State to agree to deal with the online giant<\/i><\/p>\n<p>by Brian Leubitz<\/p>\n<p>Amazon had put up over $5 million in a show of force for a potential referendum. &nbsp;But, they never really wanted to go to the ballot. &nbsp;And it looks like both parties avoid an expensive ballot fight with an agreement scheduled to be finalized before the end of session:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Under the handshake deal, Amazon won a delay until at least September 2012 but will eventually collect state sales taxes.<\/p>\n<p>The arrangement could lay the groundwork for a national online sales tax law. Amazon and major brick-and-mortar retailers like Wal-Mart and Barnes &#038; Noble agreed to lobby Washington over the next 11 months for an Internet sales tax law that applies across 50 states. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If no federal deal emerges by July 31, 2012, Amazon would have to begin collecting California sales taxes starting on Sept. 15, 2012.<\/p>\n<p>State lawmakers intend to pass a new bill in the next two days that would delay implementation of the online sales tax law until that date, according to Calderon and several sources. If Congress strikes a deal by July 31, 2012, online retailers would begin collecting taxes starting on Jan. 1, 2013, under whatever federal requirements are approved.(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sacbee.com\/2011\/09\/08\/3892836\/amazon-persuades-california-lawmakers.html#ixzz1XNWy6RQz\">SacBee<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While the governor has previously said that he&#8217;s not really all that excited about a deal with Amazon, given that this was negotiated by the Senate leaders, it would seem hard to block. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The bigger issue is how are we going to deal with the $200 million hole this blows in the budget. &nbsp;And the fact that we basically only get a promise to lobby for a sales tax measure? &nbsp;Well, that and a quarter might be able to get you a gumball.<\/p>\n<p>But the reality is that Amazon wasn&#8217;t going to collect any sales tax anytime soon. &nbsp;And were they to collect and submit the signatures, the law wouldn&#8217;t go into reality until approved (if approved). &nbsp;So we are essentially dealing with a bunch of posturing. &nbsp;Amazon knows that they are going to have to collect sales tax at some point and are hoping to delay it as long as possible. And oh, sure, it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to have one national standard.<\/p>\n<p>With Amazon and the big retail giants on board, there is likely to be significant movement on the bill. &nbsp;We&#8217;ll end up getting money into the system at some point by 2013, and we can stop messing with this fight. &nbsp;Covering another $200 million, well, that won&#8217;t be so easy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p><i>To avoid ballot fight, State to agree to deal with the online giant<\/i><\/p>\n<p>by Brian Leubitz<\/p>\n<p>Amazon had put up over $5 million in a show of force for a potential referendum. &nbsp;But, they never really wanted to go to the ballot. &nbsp;And it looks like both parties avoid an expensive ballot fight with an agreement scheduled to be finalized before the end of session:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Under the handshake deal, Amazon won a delay until at least September 2012 but will eventually collect state sales taxes.<\/p>\n<p>The arrangement could lay the groundwork for a national online sales tax law. Amazon and major brick-and-mortar retailers like Wal-Mart and Barnes &#038; Noble agreed to lobby Washington over the next 11 months for an Internet sales tax law that applies across 50 states. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If no federal deal emerges by July 31, 2012, Amazon would have to begin collecting California sales taxes starting on Sept. 15, 2012.<\/p>\n<p>State lawmakers intend to pass a new bill in the next two days that would delay implementation of the online sales tax law until that date, according to Calderon and several sources. If Congress strikes a deal by July 31, 2012, online retailers would begin collecting taxes starting on Jan. 1, 2013, under whatever federal requirements are approved.(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sacbee.com\/2011\/09\/08\/3892836\/amazon-persuades-california-lawmakers.html#ixzz1XNWy6RQz\">SacBee<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While the governor has previously said that he&#8217;s not really all that excited about a deal with Amazon, given that this was negotiated by the Senate leaders, it would seem hard to block. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The bigger issue is how are we going to deal with the $200 million hole this blows in the budget. &nbsp;And the fact that we basically only get a promise to lobby for a sales tax measure? &nbsp;Well, that and a quarter might be able to get you a gumball.<\/p>\n<p>But the reality is that Amazon wasn&#8217;t going to collect any sales tax anytime soon. &nbsp;And were they to collect and submit the signatures, the law wouldn&#8217;t go into reality until approved (if approved). &nbsp;So we are essentially dealing with a bunch of posturing. &nbsp;Amazon knows that they are going to have to collect sales tax at some point and are hoping to delay it as long as possible. And oh, sure, it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to have one national standard.<\/p>\n<p>With Amazon and the big retail giants on board, there is likely to be significant movement on the bill. &nbsp;We&#8217;ll end up getting money into the system at some point by 2013, and we can stop messing with this fight. &nbsp;Covering another $200 million, well, that won&#8217;t be so easy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[117],"tags":[9936,9581,152],"class_list":["post-13833","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-117","tag-9936","tag-9581","tag-152"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6Pvhz-3B7","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13833","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13833"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13833\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13833"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13833"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13833"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}