{"id":8473,"date":"2009-04-07T22:12:50","date_gmt":"2009-04-07T22:12:50","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2009-04-07T22:16:19","modified_gmt":"2009-04-07T22:16:19","slug":"we-dont-have-gay-marriage-because-of-a-dysfunctional-political-system","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/2009\/04\/07\/we-dont-have-gay-marriage-because-of-a-dysfunctional-political-system\/","title":{"rendered":"We Don&#8217;t Have Gay Marriage Because Of A Dysfunctional Political System"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Today, the Vermont legislature <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20090407\/ap_on_re_us\/gay_marriage_vermont\">overrode a gubernatorial veto<\/a> and voted to allow same-sex couples to marry. &nbsp;They become the first state to legalize gay marriage through the legislative process rather than the courts. &nbsp;Of course, California passed a gay marriage bill twice, in <a href=\"http:\/\/articles.latimes.com\/2005\/sep\/30\/local\/me-gays30\">2005<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetaskforce.org\/TF_in_news\/07_1009\/stories\/29_ca_passes_gay_marriage.pdf\">2007<\/a>, only to see the Governor veto the legislation both times. &nbsp;And then&#8230; nothing.<\/p>\n<p>Now, the bill never passed by a margin approaching a 2\/3 vote in either chamber, so you might question the efficacy of an override vote. &nbsp;However, that only makes sense if you aren&#8217;t aware that the California legislature NEVER overrides vetoes. &nbsp;This actually came up last year, when the Governor vetoed the initial FY2009 budget and the legislature <a href=\"http:\/\/www.californiaprogressreport.com\/2008\/09\/breaking_news_g.html\">threatened to override<\/a>. &nbsp;Instead they ceded to the Governor&#8217;s demands. &nbsp;Indeed, California has <a href=\"http:\/\/articles.latimes.com\/2008\/sep\/18\/local\/me-budget18\">never overridden a budget veto in the history of the legislature<\/a>, and the legislature pretty much never overrides vetoes of any other kind, even if the measures <a href=\"http:\/\/www.californiaprogressreport.com\/2007\/10\/schwarzenegger_56.html\">pass both houses with overwhelming margins<\/a>. &nbsp;The last override in California? &nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sacbee.com\/static\/weblogs\/capitolalertlatest\/015428.html\">THIRTY YEARS AGO<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Part of this is due to the unnecessary forced bottlenecks in the legislative process, where practically everything passes right at the end of a legislative session, and the Governor vetoes after the session ends, which means that the legislature is out of session at the time they could override a veto. &nbsp;But another part concerns an insidious professional courtesy mixed with threats, where the Governor in recent years has implicitly vowed to veto all kinds of bills if he&#8217;s ever overridden on one.<\/p>\n<p>The overall point is that California&#8217;s government does not operate like a functioning political body. &nbsp;The veto override, a major tool for a legislature to impose their will on a Governor, doesn&#8217;t exist. &nbsp;The majority vote, when a Governor agrees with the thrust of the legislation, with respect to the budget and taxes, doesn&#8217;t exist. &nbsp;And so ordinary functions of political bodies are closed off to California, by self-imposed means. &nbsp;This highlights once again why we have an ungovernable political structure that needs to be radically changed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Today, the Vermont legislature <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/ap\/20090407\/ap_on_re_us\/gay_marriage_vermont\">overrode a gubernatorial veto<\/a> and voted to allow same-sex couples to marry. &nbsp;They become the first state to legalize gay marriage through the legislative process rather than the courts. &nbsp;Of course, California passed a gay marriage bill twice, in <a href=\"http:\/\/articles.latimes.com\/2005\/sep\/30\/local\/me-gays30\">2005<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetaskforce.org\/TF_in_news\/07_1009\/stories\/29_ca_passes_gay_marriage.pdf\">2007<\/a>, only to see the Governor veto the legislation both times. &nbsp;And then&#8230; nothing.<\/p>\n<p>Now, the bill never passed by a margin approaching a 2\/3 vote in either chamber, so you might question the efficacy of an override vote. &nbsp;However, that only makes sense if you aren&#8217;t aware that the California legislature NEVER overrides vetoes. &nbsp;This actually came up last year, when the Governor vetoed the initial FY2009 budget and the legislature <a href=\"http:\/\/www.californiaprogressreport.com\/2008\/09\/breaking_news_g.html\">threatened to override<\/a>. &nbsp;Instead they ceded to the Governor&#8217;s demands. &nbsp;Indeed, California has <a href=\"http:\/\/articles.latimes.com\/2008\/sep\/18\/local\/me-budget18\">never overridden a budget veto in the history of the legislature<\/a>, and the legislature pretty much never overrides vetoes of any other kind, even if the measures <a href=\"http:\/\/www.californiaprogressreport.com\/2007\/10\/schwarzenegger_56.html\">pass both houses with overwhelming margins<\/a>. &nbsp;The last override in California? &nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.sacbee.com\/static\/weblogs\/capitolalertlatest\/015428.html\">THIRTY YEARS AGO<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Part of this is due to the unnecessary forced bottlenecks in the legislative process, where practically everything passes right at the end of a legislative session, and the Governor vetoes after the session ends, which means that the legislature is out of session at the time they could override a veto. &nbsp;But another part concerns an insidious professional courtesy mixed with threats, where the Governor in recent years has implicitly vowed to veto all kinds of bills if he&#8217;s ever overridden on one.<\/p>\n<p>The overall point is that California&#8217;s government does not operate like a functioning political body. &nbsp;The veto override, a major tool for a legislature to impose their will on a Governor, doesn&#8217;t exist. &nbsp;The majority vote, when a Governor agrees with the thrust of the legislation, with respect to the budget and taxes, doesn&#8217;t exist. &nbsp;And so ordinary functions of political bodies are closed off to California, by self-imposed means. &nbsp;This highlights once again why we have an ungovernable political structure that needs to be radically changed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":54,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[],"tags":[537,422,6172,7047,6073],"class_list":["post-8473","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-537","tag-422","tag-6172","tag-7047","tag-6073"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6Pvhz-2cF","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8473","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/54"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8473"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8473\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8473"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8473"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8473"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}