{"id":9806,"date":"2009-08-09T03:31:53","date_gmt":"2009-08-09T03:31:53","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2009-08-09T03:31:53","modified_gmt":"2009-08-09T03:31:53","slug":"uncle-milton-prop-13-and-the-least-bad-taxes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/2009\/08\/09\/uncle-milton-prop-13-and-the-least-bad-taxes\/","title":{"rendered":"Uncle Milton, Prop 13, and the &#8220;least bad&#8221; taxes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Matthews has an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxandhoundsdaily.com\/blog\/joe-mathews\/why-do-california-conservatives-ignore-uncle-milton\">outstanding column up at Fox &#038; Hounds<\/a>. It seeks to isolate the question of property taxes, and whether Prop 13 is the best resolution. And to address this question, Matthews pulls out the ol&#8217; WWMFD question &#8211; What would Milton Friedman Do?<\/p>\n<p>Matthews has an interesting position from which to comment, primarily because he conducted an interview with &#8220;Uncle Milton&#8221; in 2004, just two years before his death. He has some pretty choice quotes from that interview on the question of Prop 13:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When the subject turned to Prop 13, which he had strongly supported in 1978, Friedman said he thought the measure had proven to be &#8220;a mixed bag.&#8221; He did not regret his vote for Prop 13 because it had sent a tax-cutting message that was important for that time.<br \/>\n<br \/>* &nbsp;* &nbsp;*<br \/>\n<br \/>But as a matter of current policy, he said, Prop 13 was problematic. &#8220;It&#8217;s a bad tax measure because the property tax is the least bad tax there is,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Think of the original and indestructible properties of the soil. The least dangerous and harmful tax is a tax on something of which there is an inelastic supply.&#8221; He argued that protecting Prop 13 was far less important than cutting other taxes, particularly on the income and sales we need more of. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>See, the thing with the Republican Party today is not they are principled conservatives ideologically opposed to progressive goals. &nbsp;That sort of logical consistency would block much good progressive legislation, but it wouldn&#8217;t have lead us to the free-fall in which we currently find ourselves. Protecting Prop 13 no longer has anything to do with conservative goals or low-tax policy, but it has everything to do with a mindset. &nbsp;From Matthews:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Yes, it&#8217;s conventional wisdom that raising property taxes is politically impossible in California. But why is that true? It&#8217;s true because California&#8217;s conservatives and Republicans have become a party of no. If a proposal increases taxes in any way, they&#8217;re against it. In doing so, they ignore the teachings of an economist that they claim to revere.<\/p>\n<p>For more than a generation, conservatives have protected the &#8220;least bad tax&#8221; to the exclusion of all else. So even as income and sales and all kinds of taxes &#8211; with their negative effects on the economy &#8211; grow (they&#8217;re up again this year), the Prop 13 tax limits remain sacred. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Principled conservatism is frustrating, but you can predict principled conservatives. You can work with principled conservatives. &nbsp;However, you can&#8217;t work with a Zombie Death Cult, hell bent only on their own bizarre politics while entirely ignoring good policy<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Joe Matthews has an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.foxandhoundsdaily.com\/blog\/joe-mathews\/why-do-california-conservatives-ignore-uncle-milton\">outstanding column up at Fox &#038; Hounds<\/a>. It seeks to isolate the question of property taxes, and whether Prop 13 is the best resolution. And to address this question, Matthews pulls out the ol&#8217; WWMFD question &#8211; What would Milton Friedman Do?<\/p>\n<p>Matthews has an interesting position from which to comment, primarily because he conducted an interview with &#8220;Uncle Milton&#8221; in 2004, just two years before his death. He has some pretty choice quotes from that interview on the question of Prop 13:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When the subject turned to Prop 13, which he had strongly supported in 1978, Friedman said he thought the measure had proven to be &#8220;a mixed bag.&#8221; He did not regret his vote for Prop 13 because it had sent a tax-cutting message that was important for that time.<br \/>\n<br \/>* &nbsp;* &nbsp;*<br \/>\n<br \/>But as a matter of current policy, he said, Prop 13 was problematic. &#8220;It&#8217;s a bad tax measure because the property tax is the least bad tax there is,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Think of the original and indestructible properties of the soil. The least dangerous and harmful tax is a tax on something of which there is an inelastic supply.&#8221; He argued that protecting Prop 13 was far less important than cutting other taxes, particularly on the income and sales we need more of. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>See, the thing with the Republican Party today is not they are principled conservatives ideologically opposed to progressive goals. &nbsp;That sort of logical consistency would block much good progressive legislation, but it wouldn&#8217;t have lead us to the free-fall in which we currently find ourselves. Protecting Prop 13 no longer has anything to do with conservative goals or low-tax policy, but it has everything to do with a mindset. &nbsp;From Matthews:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Yes, it&#8217;s conventional wisdom that raising property taxes is politically impossible in California. But why is that true? It&#8217;s true because California&#8217;s conservatives and Republicans have become a party of no. If a proposal increases taxes in any way, they&#8217;re against it. In doing so, they ignore the teachings of an economist that they claim to revere.<\/p>\n<p>For more than a generation, conservatives have protected the &#8220;least bad tax&#8221; to the exclusion of all else. So even as income and sales and all kinds of taxes &#8211; with their negative effects on the economy &#8211; grow (they&#8217;re up again this year), the Prop 13 tax limits remain sacred. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Principled conservatism is frustrating, but you can predict principled conservatives. You can work with principled conservatives. &nbsp;However, you can&#8217;t work with a Zombie Death Cult, hell bent only on their own bizarre politics while entirely ignoring good policy<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[],"tags":[668,7704,60],"class_list":["post-9806","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","tag-668","tag-7704","tag-60"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p6Pvhz-2ya","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9806","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9806"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9806\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9806"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9806"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/calitics.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9806"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}