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IRV,Instant Runoff Voting, Nancy Skinner,AB1121

The Honorable Nancy Skinner

State Capitol

P.O. Box 942849

Sacramento, CA 94249-0014

Re: Your concerns about instant runoff voting

Dear Assembly Member Skinner,

I am executive director of FairVote, a non-profit, nonpartisan organization that studies election laws with the goal of changes that better respect every vote and every voice. I would like to congratulate you on your service as an elected official and respond to the concerns that you expressed regarding instant runoff voting in your 5/22 statement on AB 1121 (the legislation authored by Assembly Member Davis that would provide 10 local jurisdictions in California with the option to use ranked voting systems).

Our organization (www.fairvote.org ) has been at the forefront of advocating electoral systems that better serve the needs of America’s diverse communities. We have extensive expertise in electoral systems design and areas such as voting rights and electoral competitiveness. Two of our board members reside in California, and we have a long history of education in your state.  Given our considerable experience and expertise in this area, we believe we can contribute to addressing your stated concerns.

The two specific concerns that you expressed regarding instant runoff voting (IRV) were:  1) potential effects on voters who may not be well informed as to how the system works; and 2) the potential ability of independent expenditure committees and others to manipulate such a system.

First, in terms of voters understanding instant runoff voting, the results in the jurisdictions that have used ranked ballot methods have been subjected to vigorous testing and analysis. We have the benefit of seven exit polls, three conducted in San Francisco (CA) and four more conducted in Cary (NC), Hendersonville (NC), Burlington (VT), and Takoma Park (MD). Of the San Francisco surveys, two were conducted by San Francisco State University’s Public Research Institute, and a third was by the Asian Law Caucus, for the 2004, 2005 and 2006 elections, in which voters were asked their thoughts and opinions about instant runoff voting.  These surveys have polled many thousands of voters on their level of understanding about instant runoff voting as well as their preference for it or their prior system — see http://www.instantrunoff.com/e…

These surveys show that voters overwhelmingly understood ranked voting, with responses for good understanding ranging from 86% to 95% of voters surveyed, depending on the jurisdiction (and I would suggest the remaining number of voters is smaller than those who would say they understand the Electoral College system and doesn’t interfere with their ability to cast an effective ballot).  The Public Research Institute and Asian Law Caucus surveys also learned that voters used the system effectively, as measured by their usage of multiple rankings or the maximum number of rankings.

Additionally, voters also expressed a strong preference for using ranked voting over their old systems, with preferences ranging from 71% to 89% preferring IRV over their old system, depending on the jurisdiction.  The San Francisco surveys polled on a wide range of questions, and the detailed findings support the fact that every single demographic in the city — defined by where they live and their race, age, gender, party and political philosophy — preferred IRV to the old runoff system. Additionally, voters two-to-one perceived the instant runoff voting system as more fair than the prior two-round runoff system. So from the standpoint of

voter understanding and acceptance, ranked voting has established an impressive track record.

In addition to the exit poll surveys of voters, the extremely low rates of invalid ballots in IRV elections suggests that voters understood the mechanics of using the system.  In a recent election in Aspen, 100% of the ballots cast for Mayor were valid, i.e. no voter failures. In that same election, 99.1% of ballots cast for city council using a novel variation of ranked voting were valid.  In two IRV elections in Burlington, 99.9% of the ballots were valid in the first election and 99.99% were valid in the most recent election after a recount.  In San Francisco, 99.6% of ballots were valid, higher than for non-ranked elections.

All of these jurisdictions engaged in at least some voter education and outreach prior to their IRV election — sometimes quite inexpensively, as in the case of Burlington (VT) and Cary (NC). AB 1121 of course requires that any jurisdiction that uses ranked ballot methods must also organize an educational and outreach campaign, and that should help ensure that voters in these ten California jurisdictions have as positive a experience as voters in these other cities using IRV.

Second, you expressed a concern about the “potential ability of independent expenditure committees and others to manipulate such a system.”  Again, we have the benefit of a great many election contests having been conducted using instant runoff voting that suggests that this concern has not manifested in actual elections.  Not once in the many dozens of contests run using IRV has anyone ever suggested that there was manipulation of the system by independent expenditure committees.  Indeed, in San Francisco’s 2008 elections for Board of Supervisors, there were four open seats and all four of those seats were won by candidates who were outspent by their opponents, particularly in independent expenditures. There is no evidence of which I am aware, either anecdotal or statistical, that independent expenditures have had a greater impact in IRV elections than in non-IRV elections — on the other hand, the San Francisco Ethics Commission found that independent expenditures soared in traditional runoffs before their adoption of IRV.

I note that you also expressed concern about other potential “unintended consequences” as a result of using instant runoff voting.  As I stated earlier, the experience of using instant runoff voting in San Francisco and other jurisdictions has been generally quite positive.  Voters appear to enjoy having the option of ranking several candidates rather than just picking one candidate. It also has a rapidly growing history in non-governmental elections, including many of California’s universities, including Stanford, UCLA and U-California-Chico.

Perhaps the best way of addressing the concern about unforeseen consequences is to emphasize that AB 1121 is a pilot bill with a very limited scope and mandate.  AB 1121 only authorizes ten out of four-hundred general law jurisdictions to use ranked voting.  Those ten jurisdictions would be required to study the impact of ranked ballot elections on their jurisdiction. The essence of structuring the bill as a pilot is to ascertain if there are any unforeseen consequences or if voters have any problems using the system.  In that sense, the bill would seem perfectly constructed to address your concerns.

Should you have any need for further discussion, please do not hesitate to contact me at [email protected] or (301) 270-4616. I would be happy to go into more detail on any of this information provided here or seek to address any additional questions you have.

Best regards,

Rob Richie

Executive Director

AB 1121 Asm. skinner is swing vote

Rob Dickinson is the Executive Vice President of Californians for Electoral Reform and has worked closely with Assembly Member Mike Davis on AB 1121.

Please call Asm. Skinner’s  office to support AB 1121

> Dear Judy,

>

> I appreciate your question regarding Assemblywoman

> Skinner’s response to Steven Hill’s message about AB

> 1121.

> It is accurate, in my opinion, to say that Assemblywoman

> Skinner is a swing vote for our bill in committee.  

>

> We need 9 votes in the Appropriations Committee to pass our

> bill out of committee, and we have 8 votes.  “There are two other members of the committee that are not yet supporting the bill, and they too could be considered swing votes”. Essentially,

> we are 1 vote short of the necessary 9 votes for passage,

> and if Assemblywoman Skinner votes in support of the bill,

> we pass out of committee.   That would have been true on

> Weds. of this last week, where her vote would have passed

> our bill out of committee, and is probably true for next

> Thursday when we will still need her vote.

>

> No votes have been officially recorded on the bill in

> Appropriations, but we still know how people were planning

> to vote.   We know both because the various offices tell

> us in advance how they plan to vote, but members also tell

> committee staff how they plan to vote. The members of the

> committee inform the committee staff in advance of how they

> plan to vote in order to give the Chair information

> necessary to decide how to proceed on each bill. For

> example, the committee has shorthands for many common votes,

> such as “A Roll Call” vote, which means all

> members – both Dems and Reeps – vote in support” and

> “B Roll Call” vote, which is a party-line split

> with all Dems supporting and all Reeps opposing.  So we

> knew who was with us and who was not.  

>

> The bottom line is that if Assemblywoman Skinner votes for

> the bill, it moves forward in the Assembly, and if she

> either abstains or votes no, then the bill never gets out of

> committee.  And so far she has not been willing to indicate

> a yes vote on AB 1121.

>

>

> Her lack of support is incredibly surprising to everyone

> involved with this legislation, as her district is so

> overwhelmingly in support of instant runoff voting —

> probably close to 70% in support (given that Berkeley and

> Oakland passed IRV with 69 percent and 72 percent of the

> vote respectively).  And that disconnect is even more

> surprising given how modest this bill is.   It is

> important to note that this is merely a pilot bill to allow

> only 10 general law cities or counties to have an option to

> use ranked voting.  The bill is completely optional and

> mandates nothing.  Any city or county that does so as part

> of this legislation would be required to provide a detailed

> report on the experience which would help inform future

> policy choices.  In other words, the bill was designed to

> re-assure any legislators that might have concerns. So, if

> Asm. Skinner does in fact have concerns, one would think

> that this legislation would offer an ideal way to get more

> information from a handful of jurisdictions using IRV to

> explore whether or not there is any merit to those

> concerns.

>

>

> It is also important to note that the legislation requires

> any jurisdictions that wish to use IRV as part of this pilot

> program to obtain approval of their voters.  So any

> jurisdiction that proceeds with IRV as part of this

> legislation will have the support of the majority of their

> voters, which is a very democratic model.

>

>

> Additionally, the bill is in the Appropriations

> Committee to consider its fiscal impact to the state.  The

> Appropriations analysis concludes that the bill incurs no

> cost to

> California.   That is the primary purpose for why the

> bill is in

> Appropriations — to consider its fiscal impact — since

> the policy

> committees have already considered whether or not they

> believe the

> policy to be sound and in the interest of the state.   It

> is important

> to remember that the Democrats on the policy committee —

> Assembly

> Elections and Redistricting Committee — voted unanimously

> in support

> of the bill in an earlier vote on April 21st.

>

>

> Given the modest nature of this legislation, it does make

> Asm.

> Skinner’s unwillingness to vote for it perplexing.

> And she is clearly

> out of step with her district on this issue.

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Rob Dickinson