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TURN THAT MICROPHONE BACK ON…I PAID FOR IT!

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TURN THAT MICROPHONE BACK ON…I PAID FOR IT!

Freedom of expression under attack from those who want to “control the microphone”.
Strange bed-fellows try to stifle public discussions in public places.

Local governments are united in opposition to permiting public debate and discussions in public places including public buildings. (such as, libraries, community centers, city hall, city counsel chambers; etc) No, I am not joking…loss of freedom of expression undermines the whole idea of participatory democracy. Participatory democracy requires informed citizens who can dialogue with others in their community; but why should they be denied access to public meeting places. (Note to all of you public officials, we are not interested in your excuse, it’s the law. Tell what accomodations you will commit to.)

And, what about all these city counsel candidates; whose side are they on?Just maybe if they had public places to discuss issues with concerned citizens, (and I don’t mean forums with 30 sec available to talk about our future) maybe they would feel that litering the roadways with name recognition signs would be less important and even foregone.

Controlling the microphone is not  limited to city officials; it is also appearing in the blogshere. A self describe progressive web site is leaning on me to post less or…?

We have already loss freedom of expression with the MSM and Fox who only want their version to be seen.

A number of local bloggers and political reporters have been willing to hear me out…of course, to them, Freedom of expression is a big deal.  I invite them to go with me when I visit any of our city halls. Freedom of expression is not alive and well here in the 45th CD.

 

Making head-way for Obama in reddest of red districts

Making head-way for Obama in reddest of red districts
By pservelle – Oct 10th, 2007 at 3:59 pm EDT
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CA 45th CD is Keeping Hope Alive; please visit: www.WeR4Obama.co.nr (note: NOT.COM) Use Mozilla Firefox for best viewing. Under “Mindset”, we are getting ready to roll out a new feature, called: The Hill/Billy Prairie Home Companion. Here you will be able to add your own Hill/Billy story.
1st entry: Having it at least 3-ways as usual; how to avoid taking a definite position. (soon to be posted)

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Barack on Iraq in 2002

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Full Text Of Barack Obama’s Speech in 2002 (answer to question #1) :

October 2, 2002

“Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances. The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don’t oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton’s army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain. I don’t oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration’s pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again. I don’t oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism.

What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That’s what I’m opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the President today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s finish the fight with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings. You want a fight, President Bush?

Let’s fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe. You want a fight, President Bush?

Let’s fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells. You want a fight, President Bush? Let’s fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn’t simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil. Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not — we will not — travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.”

 

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Just Ignore It

What are we supposed to do ignore it

The Hil/Bil Blackwater Connection
The Hil/Bil Norman Hsiu Connection
The Hil/Bil Multiple Posturing on Iraq
The Hil/Bil Parsing Policy Positions
The Hil/Bil Union Busting Connection 
The Hil/Bil GQ connection
The Hil/Bil Family Charade
The Hil/Bil Dynasty Thing

I guess all the loyal Democrats must think these issues pall in comparson when compared to electing the Clintons again; after all they will partake of the spoils of victory. It is, in my view, unpatriotic, during very difficult times for Americans and America to place Party Goals above the needs of their country. 

Who cannot unite us

To the charge I am doing a disservice to the Democratic Party: only because the DP is falling lock step behind the Clintons who cannot lead even if they win. When the DP puts Country ahead of self-interest then I will see what they have to say. Until then, I will listen to Barack.

Obama reminded the crowd of United Auto Workers members in Illinois and the crowd in Aiken that he opposed invading Iraq at a time when most other politicians – including chief rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards – supported it. Obama expressed his opposition in the fall of 2002 when he was a state senator and considering a run for the U.S. Senate.
“We need to ask those who voted for that war, ‘How could we give the president a check and then be surprised when he decides to cash it?'” Obama told the South Carolina crowd.
when “this war is over, we can finally get back to facing the challenges we face here at home, the challenges you’re grappling with every day.”
The first-term Illinois senator said the war now costs between $10 billion and $12 billion a month. He noted that President Bush had vetoed a $35 billion measure expanding a children’s health program and wants almost $190 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Clinton had criticized him for being willing to meet with leaders in Iran and Venezuela. Clinton claimed “you’ll lose a propaganda war” by talking with them, Obama said.
“I am not worried about losing a propaganda battle with some petty tyrant,” he said.
He also said there are “folks in al-Qaida who we can’t negotiate with. We’ve got to take them out. I will not hesitate to do what is necessary to protect the United States of America.”

Who can unite the largest majority

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What candidate for President has the best chance to enlist the largest majority of all Americans to unite behind and to support his/her vision for America?

This is a question for every voter to ask themselves. There is no single right answer. Your opinion and mine are entitled to exist side by side in the public arena. Then, debate/discussion/education/comparisons take place and are essential to participatory democracy.

When someone suggests you are being un-fair, the larger community will by their own voice evaluate and the community will collectively determine is it fair or not. If the larger community decides that you are wrong, you are entitled to try and change their opinion or to accept their collective judgment. If you choose to do the latter, and apology would probably be accepted.

“Those polling categories that presume to define the vast chasm between

Us do not, Obama reminds us, add up to the sum of our concerns or hint at

Where our hearts otherwise intersect.” quote from John Balzar, Los Angeles Times.
 

When you are wrong, admit it

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The flip side of freedom of expression is

when you are wrong, admit it

MoveOn was wrong and should admit it;

Rush was wrong and should admit it:

President Bush was wrong and should admit it;

Hillary was wrong and should admit it

Local city officials are wrong and should admit it.

People tend to get tired when freedom of expression is used to justify irresponsible behavior. Those of us who believe that freedom of expression is both the heart and soul of a participatory democracy must also remind everyone that with this precious freedom there is a responsibility to take responsibility. When freedom of expression allows you to say anything , admit when you are wrong; apologize for un-intended but real hurt your expression caused; after you have cooled off, re-state your position in a more honest way.

In late Jan. of 2009, we will, I pray, have a newly elected President of the USA. Can any partisan politician lead and be followed by a large majority of Americans? I’m asking…Keep Hope Alive. Visit: www.BarackObama.com and www.WeR4Obama.co.nr

I support Real change not Replay; if that is wrong tell me why and I will admit it.

Hi –

First, let me say that we appreciate your joining the Calitics

community. But, (a) the diaries you’re posting don’t really have

much to do with California politics, (b) we’re extremely cautious

about presidential primary diaries unless there’s something REALLY

specific to California, as we’ve seen other communities turn into

nothing but flame wars on the primary (see, e.g., MyDD), and (c)

posting three or four in quick succession like you’ve been doing

tends to flood the diary section, crowding out other people’s more on-

topic diaries. We’d prefer not to take them down, but it would be

great if you could try to stay more on-topic in future postings.

Thanks again,

Paul, while I appreciate and admire your dedication to Barack Obama, I am not as appreciative of your attacks on the Clintons, as you have done in the past and with this email. We have many members of DOD who are supporting Hillary, as is their right, as well as Richardson, Edwards, Kucinach. I have not received one email from them attacking Obama…..and I know from a couple that I have heard from they do not appreciate your attacking their candidate. Again, I appreciate your admiration of Obama, but I believe you may be doing a disservice to him with the type of email you just sent.

Hi, Paul,

Well, Jeremy’s comments are appropos. Calitics is a blog devoted to

California politics. Maybe you should focus on the Calitics calendar

section to highlight local Obama events. You can post national

political stuff on Daily Kos, it’s more appropriate for the

presidential race. And like Jeremy notes, if something comes up that

is really specific to California and the Obama campaign, then it’s

perfect for Calitics.

Paul, I really do appreciate all your enthusiasm for Obama. I may not

always say it, but I do. It’s great. However, I don’t think it’s all

that productive to channel all that positive enthusiasm into negative

attacks. After all, isn’t Obama’s campaign supposed to be about hope?

Sorry, but negative attacks on Hillary Clinton and other Democrats do

NOT give me hope. And if we go down this road of negativity, we are

NOT projecting hope, but rather desperation in throwing stinkbombs at

the frontrunner. So please, Paul, keep up the good work for Obama
 

Stop the Clintons before it’s too late

I beg you to wake up people: the Clintons are too polarizing to govern; and, yes, that are dishonest. Stop treating them with kid gloves: they put themselves first, have convinced the Democratic Party establishment to put the Party before Country, don’t let them get away with it. Renew your commitment to our future and not our past.

This is who I am:

I am 64/w/m; I have 1 wife, 2 young children (13& 9); I receive social security disability because I have Parkinson’s. I have donated 1,000+ hrs to Obama and rank in top 50 users of MyBO. I received my Ph.D in Economics from the Claremont Graduate School in Claremont, CA.  I taught for a number of years at Whittier College (Nixon’s) where I met Geo McGovern; I was awarded a Post Doc at Brookings in Wash. D.C. ; I was staff economist in ’77 % ’78 for then Sen McGovern. I was the Democratic nominee in the old 33rd CD and lost to David Drier in 1982. I watched Adali Stevenson and Estas Kefauver on TV in ’56 when I was 13. I worked for JFK in 1960 when I was a senior at Ravenswood High School in East Palo Alto, CA. One of my best  friend’s parent were relocated to internment camps because they were believed to be more Japanese than American. I pray to be proven wrong but I fear another Great Depression looming. Don’t give me all the  old Clinton excuses…seems they did ok at least  for themselves. And all you office holders, and special interest groups instead of playing hard-ball with me…just show America how people are going to rally around the Clintons after their election and why people can be expected to behave that way. I lost my first wife and baby daughters to an accident more than 30 years ago…I am fighting for my country, for my two living children and my two other children (who daily give me their blessing to keep doing and keep going) so any thought you might have about me leaving you alone you can forget about. Love your Country…if the Clintons really ldid that would discontinue their campaign.

Beware the wolves in sheep’s clothing

Beware the wolves in sheep’s clothing

It should have been a tip-off, duh, the old Trojan horse ploy. In times like these, you need to exercise extra caution when deciding whether to invite someone in.

Take our old friend Hillary of Troy and her declaration, “I am a modern progressive”. Even for the Clinton’s that is a stroke of genius in the annuals of democratic double speak.

For all of you non-card carrying Clintonites, the translation is this. It is found in that section of Clinton double speak that is devoted to taking over the rest of what remains of the real democratic party.

Paraphrasing: our successful, to date, infiltration of the old Democratic Party (I.e. Martin, Bobby, John, FDR, Lincoln) was uncontested because we came in from the right rear. To complete  our mission it is essential to infiltrate the party faithful. That means we must take control of the party leadership. As always we will begin by pledging our allegiance.

Next, we must devote every resource to control the democratic primary. We will carry this mission out using SOP. In this instance, let them believe that we are really focused on the General election.

As carried forward by the MSM, the strategy is being executed flawlessly.

Hence this emergency alert warning to all of you who have yet to join the insanity of the “clinton cool-aid brigade”. BEWARE THE WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING. Be particularly careful with these all ready infiltrated groups: #1 All Democratic office holders and other senior members of the DLC and local Party regulars. #2 the conveniently unidentified internet advance special forces and all new online Groups claiming some connection to real Progressive forces.

To date, the only link to their true identify is their focus on “winning” as opposed to “governing”.

The only “truth serum” is to ask them to explain how they expect to govern after being elected by less than half of all voters as was the case with the demonstrably more popular Clinton, Bubba. In neither of his wins in the General election to become President did he reach 50%.

His inability to bring about real change (or hardly any change really) was blamed on the relentless attacks from the right. Whether this charge is true or not, the record speaks for itself: no health care reform; a punitive and Republican styled welfare reform; signing away American jobs via NAFTA;
failure to head-off further blood-shed in the Middle East and in particular to address genocide against the Kurds; you can add your own examples I know.

But what about the economy stupid! As a card carrying Ph.D. in economics, I must confess that only attention given to weather is there more talk about something over which we have less control. When economic forces are with you, anyone can claim credit and when they blow the other direction, no one takes the blame. This fact remains: when good things happen in the economy, seldom is it due from explicit action and on the isolated times when there appears to have been a connect between explicit policy, the cause and effect are years apart. The huge increase in the deficit during Reagan’s presidency (resulting from the combined “policy” to cut taxes and dramatically increased defense spending) was the real hero for the performance of the economy during the 1990s; Bill can take the credit, which is his way, but he did little of consequence for the economy one way or the other,

For whatever complicated or not reasons, given the chance the Clintons always exaggerate their achievements and minimize their part in failed policy.

Give them counseling but don’t give them the keys to our future.