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AG Harris Takes on S&P

Big California pension firms lost billions

by Brian Leubitz

A few days ago, I wrote about S&P upgrading California’s credit rating. As I mentioned then, the arbitrariness of the ratings is troubling. Somehow California bonds are a worse investment than a series of subprime mortgage bonds circa 2007. Yes, those bonds were getting AAA ratings, while California is begging for a single A.

Turns out, that those sketchy AAA ratings hurt the state in another way: our pension funds lost big on investments made based on the notion that they were AAA rated. AG Kamala Harris, after working with the federal government on their lawsuit, announced that the state would be suing S&P as well.

Attorney General Kamala Harris today sued S&P, saying its “intentionally corrupted” ratings process cost CalPERS and CalSTRS a combined $1.36 billion.

Harris’ lawsuit in San Francisco Superior Court said the two pension funds relied on the “AAA” ratings assigned to securities by S&P.(SacBee

Ultimately, this is just one small portion of the larger discussion of what role the credit ratings agencies will play in our future. During the height of the financial bubble, their power and relationships both strayed into questionable realms. Dodd-Frank made some changes, but one suspects that such a field will never really be done evolving.

AG Harris Takes on S&P

Big California pension funds lost billions

by Brian Leubitz

A few days ago, I wrote about S&P upgrading California’s credit rating. As I mentioned then, the arbitrariness of the ratings is troubling. Somehow California bonds are a worse investment than a series of subprime mortgage bonds circa 2007. Yes, those bonds were getting AAA ratings, while California is begging for a single A.

Turns out, that those sketchy AAA ratings hurt the state in another way: our pension funds lost big on investments made based on the notion that they were AAA rated. AG Kamala Harris, after working with the federal government on their lawsuit, announced that the state would be suing S&P as well.

Attorney General Kamala Harris today sued S&P, saying its “intentionally corrupted” ratings process cost CalPERS and CalSTRS a combined $1.36 billion.

Harris’ lawsuit in San Francisco Superior Court said the two pension funds relied on the “AAA” ratings assigned to securities by S&P.(SacBee

Ultimately, this is just one small portion of the larger discussion of what role the credit ratings agencies will play in our future. During the height of the financial bubble, their power and relationships both strayed into questionable realms. Dodd-Frank made some changes, but one suspects that such a field will never really be done evolving.

All Sorts of Credit Ratings News

All right. I know you all couldn’t get enough of my bond news, so I’m back with a related topic: credit ratings agencies.  We’ve mentioned the crashing of our credit ratings, but some states aren’t taking it lying down.  Of course, California is leading the charge.  The Pew Center on the State’s Stateline.org takes a look:

Four days after one of the agencies, Fitch Ratings, downgraded California’s bond rating to the worst in the country based on the state’s struggling economy, California put together what state officials said was one of the largest long-term general obligation bond sales in U.S. history. The money will be spent on infrastructure projects.

State Treasurer Bill Lockyer said the sale, which exceeded the original goal of $4 billion, proved that the ratings the agencies assign to state bonds are dubious, because as far as the municipal bond buyers were concerned, “investors stepped up and showed their confidence in California.”

Lockyer and other state treasurers say these same agencies gave top ratings to AIG and Lehman Brothers, private companies whose problems helped cause the Wall Street collapse last fall. The state officials say the ratings firms should give states higher credit scores that are more comparable to those assigned to corporations. (Stateline.org 3/31/09)

This of course is Lockyer’s job.  It is his job to stand up to the ratings agencies and try to prod our rating higher. Even a minor rating change is worth millions, if not billions, to our general fund.  And Lockyer has been making this argument for a while now.  And Lockyer isn’t the only one, with state officials all over looking into the issue, such as Conn. AG Richard Blumenthal. So, best of luck to them.  

That being said, if one were to really crack into the mythical reasonable investor’s mind, would they really be saying that they are showing confidence in California? Or is it that they simply don’t believe the federal government will allow us to fail.

The ratings agencies have the teevee and the intertubes just like we do. They know exactly what is going on.  They see the struggles that we have just in getting the most simple tax increase passed. They see the terrible polling numbers for the special election. They wonder how we are going to pay our bills without Prop 1C’s expected “payday loan.” (Skelton’s words, not my own.)

Now, Lockyer does have a point that if the mortgage backed securities that brought down our economy were given AAA ratings, it makes no sense to give our bonds an “A” rating. But one has to think that given all the scrutiny, the ratings agencies are being extra cautious.

The final point that should be made is that the credit ratings system is most certainly broken. The agencies are paid by the companies issuing the debt, it really is a ludicrous arrangement.