(cross-posted from ATM Watch)
In Survey USA's post-debate poll of 317 California adults who watched the GOP debate on Thursday (h/t The Right's Field), a full 30% felt that Giuliani had won the debate; Romney and McCain were essentially tied for second place with 12% and 11% respectively; and 16% of respondents weren't sure who had won. The partisan breakdown of respondents was 45% Republican, 30% Democratic and 22% Decline to State.
What I find more interesting than winners and losers though is the fact that Survey USA had to poll 2,400 Californians to find 317 who'd actually seen the debate. That's a paltry 13% response rate. Compare that to the survey of South Carolina adults after the Democrats debated there a week prior. There, of the 1,250 SC adults interviewed, 403 said they had listened to the debate, or an enviable 32%. Survey USA draws an interesting conclusion:
For comparison purposes, 1 in 3 South Carolinians watched the Democratic debate, compared to 1 in 8 Californians who watched the Republican debate. Californians are far less engaged in political process than Carolinians, at this stage.
More (including a look at the poll’s crosstabs) over the flip…
On one hand this shouldn't come as too much of a shock considering South Carolina is used to being one of the early primary states and Californians are clearly electioned out after at least one election a year since 2002. But this conclusion implies that the two things are equivalent when really they're apples and oranges.
I'd argue that what Survey USA really should have concluded is that:
Californians are far less engaged in the political process when it comes to Republican field than Carolinians are when it comes to the Democratic field.
California is a blue state, Arnold notwithstanding, so it follows that we'd be less interested in the Republican field. And while South Carolina is a red state, over half the voting population is African American, so certainly a field that includes arguably the first viable African American presidential candidate would inspire more excitement there. And hell, 28% more people watched the Democratic debate nationwide anyway. There is clearly more excitement about the Democratic presidential candidates than their Republican counterparts in general, so it follows that that trend would be replicated at the state level.
One of the key arguments in favor of the early primary has been that actually having a say in the process will increase voter engagement, something California desperately needs and I still think it will. But the extent to which there is truth to Survey USA's conclusion, we need to watch this question over the coming months. If this year's Democratic field can't excite a disillusioned California electorate, we're worse off than I thought.
An inspection of the poll's full cross-tabs reveals some interesting findings:
– Former Virginia governor Jim Gilmore showed signs of life in CA with an unusually strong 8% of the vote, beating even California's own Duncan Hunter. Gilmore was particularly strong among respondents who considered themselves "liberal" and those between 18-34 years of age. In fact, among both those groups, Gilmore's plan for Iraq ties McCain for second best behind Giuliani's. And on the question of whose immigration plan was best, Gilmore ties Tancredo, Romney and Hunter (8%) for 3rd place behind Giuliani (31%) and McCain (11%.) Does anyone even remember Gilmore's plans for Iraq or immigration?
– Giuliani enjoys more support from self-described conservatives than he does overall. While Giuliani was chosen as winner by 30% of the respondents, 32% of conservatives polled said Giuliani won the debate. Interestingly, when broken down by party affiliation, Giuliani enjoys 30+% support among both Republicans and Democrats but that number plummets to 19% among those that consider themselves Independents.
– While illegal immigration crusader Tom Tancredo only polled at 4% overall, the groups he did show strength among were conservatives (5%), Independents (9%) and, perhaps most interestingly, Asian-Americans (10%.)
– As for the gender gap, women were more likely to support Gilmore than men were (11% to 7%) and were less likely to support Romney (10% to 13%) or McCain (9% to 12%) than their male counterparts were. But perhaps most telling, women were much more likely to be unsure as to who won the debate (25%) than men were (13%.)