CA-04 Shale

Recently, on Aug 10, Tom McClintock(R, Thousand Oaks) trying to carpetbag his way up into federal level congressional office by using our Northern CA district, released his version of an “energy” policy.  http://blog.tommcclintock.com/…   I looked at it, and I thought, this is seriously so bad, somebody must have been smoking crack when they composed it.  

That bad.  The entire thing, start to finish, is riddled with factual errors. This is what happens when Republicans running around here want something. They just make stuff up.

When you make stuff up, and then base your decisions on fantasy or deceit, the outcome is not good.  If you try to do this in engineering, the results are failure.  Let’s learn about shale.

(ARC note:  When I was doing the final editing on this diary which I first posted very late Sunday evening on dailykos, I didn’t know that McClintock was about to finally do what I predicted:  disappear the evidence of his ineptitude, and scrub the policy off his site.  When I rechecked my links after posting, I of course got an “error not found page for his website, but the original is all over the internet thanks to his blobber, er, blathering it.  When I then checked the Auburn Journal, they had an updated story about the scrub.  This is it:   http://auburnjournal.com/detai…          )

The original is below.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sunday, Aug 17, 2008~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Crazy Tom McClintock has since gotten some public feedback pointing out some of the errors in his “plan.”   A rational person would then apologize for insulting the public with such drivel, since it’s government money he would be using on it if he were elected, but oh, no, not Crazy Tom McDooduck.  He’s now given yet another public speech repeating the exact same things.

Here’s another link to crazy Tom’s “energy” policy: (it is also on his website, as I did in the intro, but  I’m also linking to a newspaper which is slightly less likely to mysteriously disappear or be altered :

http://auburnjournal.com/detai…

A Summary of Tom McClintock’s “energy” policy:

He doubles the known domestic oil reserves and claims nobody is allowed to drill them

He  fantasizes that all the oil shale in the western states can be turned into enough barrels of oil to last us another century. He ignores the part about digging up half of 4 states to get to it.

He claims it’s illegal to look for oil on 93% of our land. Only 7% of our landmass is not BLM ? People can’t look on private property?  Remember illegal immigration ? Now we have faith based persecution of illegal geology exploration.  Apparently the man cannot tell the difference between LOOKING at something, formally exploring it using geologists, and LEASING it and DRILLING it.  

He claims The Chinese Government is drilling all of Florida’s offshore oil reserves, by using Cuban water bases, at the behest of Nancy Pelosi.

Since Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, it’s going to be the Next Big Thing. ( Oh, no, not the Doolittle Hindenburg Theory again. )  Crazy Tom says if only Pelosi wasn’t conspiring to keep electrical prices high so we could start processing all the ocean water to get hydrogen.

He then claims electricity costs 6 times less per kilowatt hour than it does currently. This is to bolster his previous claim that the dead Auburn Dam project should be built.  If electricity was that cheap, then building a dam for hydoelectric over 4 earthquake faults would make sense in Tom’s world.  If you then ignored the cost of the dam, the infrastructure, the transmission lines, the redesign, and the financing.

–  end of the summary.

Did I mention the Foresthill bridge over the nearby American River needs a 43 million dollar seismic retrofit ?  I can’t wait to see what an Auburn Dam designed to withstand the same potential earthquake potential would cost, as the last time the thing was designed was about 30 years ago, and the 2006 Bureau of Reclamation/Army Corp of Engineers study that Doolittle commissioned and then tried to delay, which said the proposed dam project would be a very expensive way to hold back water already being used downstream in an existing dam, Folsom, used those old 1970’s numbers.

The contention that hydropower would give us nearly free electricity was particularly mindboggling.  It ignores the cost of designing and building the physical plant producing it, and ignores the fact that the transmission lines and other hardware and generation/maintenance costs are creating the bulk of what the home consumer pays for it.  Because these things need to be financed.  Even if they are done through the sale of bonds or by a private investor, they have to be paid for. The private investor would still pass the costs on to the consumer buying the final product.  Alright, let’s ignore this for a second.  Let’s look at a current electric bill from PG&E.  Even if you took all those hardware costs out of it, you would still be paying 8 cents a kilowatt hour, not a cent and a half.

So Tom McClintock is already lying about what is on your electric bill. You’d think he’d know better, after 2003.  This is just one example. The amount of water the damn could save, and the number of people it could serve, is another.    

I wasn’t sure where to start with this turkey, it was so bad. It was like a John Doolittle (R,Chevron, Not Yet Indicted)   plan on steroids.  Except with Doolittle, he had been too far gone for so long that nobody ever expected much.  In Tom’s world, he was feeling the need to assuage his supporters that he could outwhack Doolittle on the reality scale.

Since Congress voting to subsidize development of the Green River Valley Formation shale oil fields in Wyoming, VP Dick Cheney’s territory, seems to be really what they’re after, I’ll go with that in the most detail.  

This oil shale extraction mining was attempted before in Parachute, Colorado. The company, Exxon, couldn’t do it from both a financial, technical, and practicality standpoint (Federal rules say no developing worse  EROEI petrofuel mining systems than what we already have) and the $5 billion dollar project turned turtle in 1982. May the 2nd of that year became known as “Black Sunday.”   Link to Newsweek article from this July 14, 2008  “America’s Untapped Reserves”

http://www.newsweek.com/id/146161

The Republicans claim decades later that developing this oil shale formation will cause prices to drop at the pump, but this is absurd. One, you can’t use this stuff at the pump, unless you’re driving a diesel, and secondly, it would take years to develop the fields, third, and most important, to be economically feasible the price of oil HAS TO STAY HIGH for this to be competitive.

One ton, or 2000 lbs, of oil shale yields 150 liters or 40 gallons or about 320 liquid lbs of shale “oil.”   That’s about 50 lbs of rocks that have to be accessed and treated to make 1 gallon of liquid “shale oil”.  That has to be further refined, and you still don’t get gasoline.

There is also a way to make liquid fuel out of coal.  By contrast, one ton, or 2000 lbs of coal can make 170 gallons of oil, or over 4 times as much.

So already I’ve shown that this oil shale is worse than coal.

One ton shale rock = maybe 40 gals that needs to be refined further to get anything useful as a fuel

One ton coal = 170 gals that need to be refined further

That, in a nutshell, is why Congress kiboshed federally leasing this land out in the past for development for this purpose.

You can stop reading now if you need the short version.  You now know more than the Republicans. This isn’t being a “Luddite,” as Crazy Tom McClintock says. It’s call “Geological Engineering.”

But there’s more.  There’s this concept in mining called Energy Returned On Energy Invested, or EROEI .  It’s exactly what it sounds like, it’s a way to measure how much energy you put in a project vs. how much energy you get back out.

When the Energy Returned is less than what you started with, which is less than “1”,  it’s called an “energy sink.”  This means you’re losing energy doing the project.

Domestic oil shale has, as you guessed, a low EROEI.  Numbers vary, from .7 to maybe 3,  but it’s lower than coal and regular oil, which is about 5.

The more you do to shale rock to try to turn it into something resembling diesel, the more energy you have to burn trying to do it.  

One could say that the entire Bush Adminstration, start to finish, has set the record for low EROEI.  

Okay, Estonia uses oil shale as a coal substitute to burn in power plants for electrical generation, but do we really aspire to be just like Estonia ?  Crazy Tom McDooDuck does !  I’m not even getting into the problems with the smoke plume from burning it for fuel, which would be spreading things like sulfer and uranium around.  To get the massive amounts of fuel needed to process oil shale, they would have to be using oil shale itself, because it would be the only thing close by.

___ Now we’ll explore the topic of how much oil the country uses:

links we’re going to use:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Unit…

United States Oil Consumption (2004/2005 estimate)Early Bush 2nd Term  

Oil production      8.3 million barrels/day

Oil exports             1 million barrels/day.  yes, we export oil.        

Oil consumption  20.8 million barrels/day

Oil imports           13.2 million barrels/day

20.8 million barrels day x 365 days/yr =  7,592 million,

or 7.6 billion barrels used per year total, estimated

use 20.8  million barrels,  have 7.3 = needed 13.5 million barrels a day

= 4927.5  million barrels/year or

~ 4.9 billion barrels/year need to be imported  

proven US oil reserves Jan 2006  21.76 billion barrels.  not much, ~ 3 years

if we kept up the current consumption rate in the US of 7.6 billion barrels of oil per year, x 100 years per century, it would = 760 billion barrels

There are 42 gallons of oil in a barrel and 55 gallons in a standard drum.

There are 158.9 liters per barrel. About 19 to 23 gallons of gasoline can be made from one barrel of oil, the rest is made into other products.  

__What about those Fabulously Oil Soaked Middle Eastern Countries?

proven Saudi oil reserves Jan 2006  267billion barrels (produced 10 mil/d

proven Iraq oil reserves Jan 2006    115 billion barrels (produced 2mil/day)

proven Iran oil reserves Jan 2006     113 billion barrels (produced 4mil/day)

http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O…

Oil Reserves:  The amount of oil in a subsurface resevoir is called oil in place, OIP.  Only a fraction of this oil can be recovered from a reservoir, and this is the portion that is considered to be proven reserves.

At the current rate of production, the United States is generally thought as having about 11 years left.

That’s right.  11 years.

_____ Enter the Politicians….   notice how our side isn’t pushing this

http://www.reuters.com/article…

Obama says would consider limited offshore drilling 8/1/08  


“My interest is in making sure we’ve got the kind of comprehensive energy policy that can bring down gas prices,” Obama said in an interview with The Palm Beach Post during a tour of Florida.

“If, in order to get that passed, we have to compromise in terms of a careful, well thought-out drilling strategy that was carefully circumscribed to avoid significant environmental damage — I don’t want to be so rigid that we can’t get something done,” Obama told the newspaper.

In a statement, Obama said he remained skeptical of the value of expanded offshore drilling in fighting rising gas prices. He has said he prefers oil companies to use the land already available.  

The offshore drilling areas proposed would be in the Gulf of Mexico, the North and South Carolinas, US Georgia, and Virginia if those states gave permission and it would still have to be 50 miles from the shore.  He also said

“I do welcome the establishment of a process that will allow us to make future drilling decisions based on science and fact.”

Science and fact. That ought to frighten the Republicans.

So that’s an awful lot of “ifs.”  There’s not that much proven oil reserves offshore of the US, compared to what the United States consumes on a yearly basis.   I wonder if those states are looking forward to becoming another version of Louisiana under a Republican McCain administration. Notice how they left out California for now.

While as a political negotiating point I really didn’t like this, from a reality point, Obama knows that the oil companies are trying to hype the speculation to attract investors,  and one must be careful where to put an oil rig.  Because new rigs will be very expensive.

The reason for drilling in the Gulf or off the East Coast is slightly safer than the West, is that they don’t have a big tectonic plate butting up against their coastline plates, with a lot of sudden earthquakes, caused when something gives and shifts, like the west coast does. See how the east cost brown area extends far out into the ocean, past Greenland.

Pic here of world’s tectonic plates:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P…

On the west coast we have a lot more seismic activity. This current map is unusually quiet as it it showing only 398 earthquakes when I pulled it it. This means that pressure has either been released and we’re in a lull, or all hell is going to break loose.

Pic here of earthquake monitoring map of CA:

http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteq…

This area here, off the Northern Coast near Ft. Bragg/ Eureka, is one of the most interesting, because it has huge earthquakes all the time, mostly between 4 and 6 magnitude, but they occur off the coastline out in the Pacific, so they don’t make the news very often.  Offshore earthquakes can cause tsunamis, which are giant tidal waves.  

http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteq…

Eureka, CA, has had huge earthquakes in 1922, 1980, 1991, 1992, 1994,1995, 1997… 2007….  you get the idea.

Here’s one that happened in 1954, 2 years before Tom McClintock was born. http://www3.gendisasters.com/c…

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/reg…

Because the Republican candidate for Congress does not understand this, and keeps referring to geologists as “Luddites,” if you see him, be sure to tell him not to try to site an offshore oil rig up by “Petrolia, CA.”

What the East and Gulf Coast does have as a danger to oil rigs is threat from Hurricane damage. A hurricane is very serious, long lasting traveling ocean thunderstorm with extremely high winds. (I’m writing this for Republicans. There is one approaching Florida right now. Evacuate if you’re in the Keys. Now back to our regular diary.) During the 2005 Hurricane season, there were more hurricanes than any other time in the past century. 27 named storms, 15 hurricanes, 7 major hurricanes, and 4 hurricanes which reached category 5.

A category 5 strength hurricane will cause catastrophic property damage.

Another way of looking at this is to measure and add up how strong the storms are and how long they last.  When looked at that way, the year 2005 is still up in the top 3, behind 1950 and 1995.  Since 1995, there have been more and stronger hurricanes in the Atlantic because of warmer conditions in the Atlantic ocean, which affect water and wind currents.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/cl…

Here is a great government link about the most famous Hurricane of the 2005 season. It hit the Gulf Coast on August 27th. (many satelite pics, loads slowly)

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/ear…

Some people like to argue about what causes these in an attempt to do nothing about the consequences.

Here is a map of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita’s winds superimposed over the location of oil pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico:

http://skytruth.mediatools.org…

Here is a picture of post- Hurricane Katrina oil slicks in the Gulf of Mexico, based on government satellite pictures:

http://skytruth.mediatools.org…

So coastline drilling would have to be done in a way that the new kind of hurricanes didn’t tear it apart and dump all the oil into the ocean every year or two. Democrats would not be trying to sabotage the tighter engineering and enviromental standards that the Republicans keep trying to ignore.  

I’m still not a fan of offshore drilling. I want to force Congress to make them stop bleeding oils into the oceans carelessly and killing all the coastal tidal nurseries that provide baby fish food.  

___ On to the Republicans, or, where did Crazy Tom get this “shale”  idea from?_______

This is an alleged AP article from a Louisiana Republican Senator candidate’s campaign website.  Unfortunately it does not have a date on it, but it’s from this year.  It’s not unusual for a campaign person to submit a press release to the local media and the media to run it uncut as a news article, which could possibly explain why this Republican, who is most unfortunately named John Kennedy, is able to run it on his site without the AP killing it. (the original AP link was gone and this is where I traced the article to )  

http://www.johnkennedy.com/new…


Republican candidate John Kennedy said unlocking the energy source from oil shale – as much as 800 billion barrels of oil locked in underground rock in Colorado, Wyoming and Utah – could shrink the nation’s dependence on foreign oil and could help ease prices at the pump.

Kennedy, the state treasurer, said his Democratic opponent, U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu, has helped block the oil shale development. Kennedy’s campaign is highlighting the energy issue, hoping to undercut Landrieu’s image – and campaign pitch – as a senator who has crossed party lines to push for more oil and gas drilling and exploration.

Earlier this year, Landrieu cast the deciding vote in committee against lifting a moratorium on commercial oil shale leases, a vote she said she made at the request of U.S. Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo. Congress must agree to remove the ban before oil shale development can begin.

“You can’t just turn your back on a billion plus barrels of oil for politics,” Kennedy said.

Yes you can.

I don’t think Ken Salazar wanted to host the Democratic National Convention this year in his home state of Colorado with the potential backlash from opening up his state to massive strip mining for shale rock.

Link has map showing potential mining areas: http://www.coloradoconfidentia…

Nearly 2 and a half million acres could be set aside for mining in a tri state area. Notice how Utah and Wyoming also are involved. Will this map impact the potential Republican Vice Presidental selection?  Yes.  

The Republicans have been happily inflating the amount of oil shale reserves and the amount of actual oil that could be extracted from the reserves in this country.  This is from August 12, 2008 Investor’s Business Daily:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/I…

Shell Oil is going to survey and develop one forth (25%) of the surface area of the nation of Jordan for oil shale production.  The Brazillion oil company Petrobras, Jordan Energy and Mining (JEML, a British- Jordanian duo), and a Saudi company are also wanting to survey other blocks. If a small middle eastern country is doing it….


Meanwhile, we sit on enough oil to make OPEC look like a mom-and-pop operation. In the West we may have what could be called a Persia on the Plains. A Rand Corp. study says the Green River Formation, which covers parts of Colorado, Utah and Wyoming, has the largest known oil shale deposits in the world.

“The United States has 2 trillion barrels of oil shale,” according to the Institute for Energy Research. “This is more than seven times the amount of crude oil reserves found in Saudi Arabia and is enough to meet current U.S. demand for over 250 years.”

A report from the Energy Department’s Argonne National Laboratory states that “even a moderate estimate of 800 billion barrels of recoverable oil from oil shale in the Green River Formation is three times greater than the proven oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.”  

Before you get all vastly excited about that, remember how little oil the Saudi Arabians actually export to us.  In 2007, according to our DOE, it was only 14.5% of what the US imported from 46 different countries.  In June of this year, it was 1.47 million barrels, a slight decrease from last year.  http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil…  

There is some level of controversy over just how much the Saudis really have left in “proven” reserves, anyway.  This is because of energy speculators and the competition. Nobody likes to tip their hand during a winning run.                                                

This is also like saying your dog is really big because the other guy’s dog is a chihuahua.

It’s also assuming that the oil shale reserves are a certain size, and that the oil shale processing could somehow magically transform rock into petroleum without burning more fuel in the process. Notice also how they are using referring to the amounts of shale in barrels. Rocks do not come in barrels in nature. They come in formations. They’re rocks. Solids. Not liquids.  This is entirely speculation. Estimates.  What exists now is trapped in rock, which may or may not be able to be mined.  In mining, there is no such thing as a “proven” reserve until the mining process actually starts to produce the mineral, because only a small amount of the total mineral, even in oil drilling, is recoverable.  In other words, they are estimating how many tons of rock might be oil shale, assuming they can physically access all of it, and calling it “proven.” This is incorrect.  But to a person with no knowledge of geology or mining practices, it might make the idea sound feasible.

____OIL SHALE & GAS SHALE, in more detail  ___

So just what is oil shale, anyway?  From the American Association of Petroleum Geologists


http://emd.aapg.org/technical_…

Most oil shales are fine-grained sedimentary rocks containing relatively large amounts of organic matter from which significant amounts of shale oil and combustible gas can be extracted by destructive distillation.  Included in most definitions of “oil shale”, either stated or implied, is the potential for the profitable extraction of shale oil and combustible gas or for burning as a fuel.  Oil shale differs from coal whereby the organic matter in coal has a lower atomic H:C ratio and the OM:MM ratio of coal is usually greater than 4.75:5.

Oil shales were deposited in a wide variety of environments including freshwater to saline ponds and lakes, epicontinental marine basins and related subtidal shelves.  They were also deposited in shallow ponds or lakes associated with coal-forming peat in limnic and coastal swamp depositional environments. It is not surprising, therefore, that oil shales exhibit a wide range in organic and mineral composition. Most oil shales contain organic matter derived from varied types of marine and lacustrine algae, with some debris of land plants, depending upon the depositional environment and sediment sources.

Uh, say what?

Oil Shale is a kind of rock that is like soft coal but much lower in quality.

There are 3 kinds of rocks. Igneous, metamorphic, and sedimentary.

Igneous rocks are made of cooled magma (like hot lava, like comes out of volcanos.) Think “ignite.” Granite is a igneous rock.

Metamorphic rock is made up of other rocks that were put under great heat and pressure, which caused them to change form. Think “mashed rock.” Marble is a metamorphic rock.

Sedimentary rock is made up of the “other kinds” of rocks. Igneous and metamorphic parent rocks weather, erode, and break off into very fine particles, which then get washed or blown away and are deposited elsewhere. They may be carried down a stream, to a river, to an estuary at the ocean, and then washed out onto the continental shelf. They form layers. There, they may combine with the organic (once living) remains of other plants or animals, and by the pressure applied by the top and side layers, they slowly turn into rocks again. Think “sediment.” Sandstone is a sedimentary rock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S…

The sedimentary rock cover of the continents of the Earth’s crust is extensive, but the total contribution of sedimentary rocks is estimated to be only 5% of the total. As such, the sedimentary sequences we see represent only a thin veneer over a crust consisting mainly of igneous and metamorphic rocks.

In addition, sedimentary rocks often form porous and permeable reservoirs in sedimentary basins in which petroleum and other hydrocarbons can be found (see Bituminous rocks).  

Remember that last line I bolded. That’s important. “Porous.”  “Resevoirs.” Water cachements underground.  Bituminous rocks contain burnable carbon such as tar or petroleum.  Bituminous is also a type of medium hard coal when used as a coal adjective. But they aren’t the same thing.

Okay, but how does this sedimentary rock show up in places like the California Sierra mountains, or the Midwestern United States?

The Earth is constantly changing. At times in the past, what we see now as dry land was underwater in an inland sea in the middle of the country.  This also has happened on the California coastline, as the ocean tectonic plate shoves into the land plate and the result is the mountains slowly rising up out of old ocean floor.  

How is Oil Shale different from regular shale ?

It’s burnable. The old organic, carbon based (formerly alive, now deceased) plants and animals in it have been slowly turned into something like…. flammable rock compost. Oil shale is full of fossils.

Remember what plants do.  They suck carbon out of the air as a part of photosynthesizing (taking energy from the sun to grow) . Oil shale products are hydrocarbon fuels.

Oil shale has been used on a small scale basis for centuries in Europe, in the same way coal is used.

Electrical Power Plants in this country run on Coal, Natural Gas, or Nuclear fuel, a little bit of hydropower or “other,” btw.  

I’ve been reading these Republican blog descriptions of what “oil shale” is and does and they have managed to make it sound like alchemy.

pyrolysis can convert the kerogen in oil shale into synthetic crude oil.  

uh, Say what?

Heating up oil shale to really hot can make part of the stuff liquefy and/or turn into shale gas, with solid residue leftovers.

In the past centuries, this has been done above ground. They mined it like coal, and then broke it up into little pieces, heated it, and used it to make oil or kerosene fuels or just burnt it au naturel like coal.

  In the recent past, there have been small scale experiments with doing this oil shale processing “in situ.” (on site, in the ground) This means that instead of tunnel, open pit, or strip mining the stuff, they try drilling into it while it’s still underground, heating it to extraordinary temperatures (842ºF to 932ºF ) with no oxygen, which is called retorting, FOR A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS,  and the oils and gases are drawn off.  Then those oils have to be further refined.   http://www.newsweek.com/id/146…

If you heated it up that hot with oxygen, it would burn. Here comes the fun part:

from wikipedia, again:



Shale oil does not contain the full range of hydrocarbons used in modern gasoline production, and could only be used to produce middle-distillates such as kerosene, jet fuel, and diesel fuel.[4] Worldwide demand for these middle distillates, however, has increased rapidly.

 While it is true that the continental United States has a lot of oil shale deposits, there is a reason that they haven’t used the stuff on any sort of large scale basis.  

It contains less energy than coal.  It requires much MORE processing to get the usable part of the burnable carbon out of it.

Remember that “porous” part above I emphasized ?  Oh, yeah, frequently  oil shale is found near fresh water aquifers.  read this:  http://oilshalegas.com/greenri…

….. back in 2006, the BLM in CO issued 5 shale leases for research projects.  They grant rights to develop oil shale on 160 acre plots for 10 years.  ….. there is estimated to have been over 3000 wells drilled already.  Shell Oil Company is working on an experiment called the FREEZE WALL which creates a barrier around the drilling area under ground so nothing would be contaminated.  This freeze project started in 2007 and will end around 2010 – 2012.  A system will also pump out the water from the drilling area of the Shell Oil Freeze Wall. The freeze zone is about the size of a football field and is located in Rio Blanco County CO.  Shell is not allowed to develop the property, it is only for testing purposes.

…. there is an aquifer, halfway down. When you get down to the Shale Oil there is water that provides drinking water in Western Colorado.  Shell is working above the aquifer, what they do is pump out the water from below where they are working, and they freeze, create a freeze wall so that water cannot get in.  The water, if any oil drips down, the water is not polluted with it.  Once they remove the heat from the rock and extract the oil and things cool down, they unfreeze the water and it goes back…..  

So, this is a pretty complex operation they are trying to do underground, or “in situ.”  You are superheating rock for years in some areas to nearly 900 degrees, sucking all the oxygen out, and supercooling rock below freezing in other areas trying to keep the oil from leaking into the aquifers.  ALL of this takes additional energy, and puts the drinking water in aquifers at risk of contamination.  Also, water is necessary to add hydrogen back to the mined shale oil afterwards before it can be shipped to a refinery. So large scale mining of oil shale would require large quantities of …. water.  The Green River Basin area does not have a lot of rainfall.

Click here for pic of an experimental in- situ (underground)  oil shale processing site done by Shell near Rangeley, Colorado. I can see about 6 little cricket pumps in this, it is a very tiny oilfield.

http://skytruth.mediatools.org…

Here is an operating in- situ oil shale site near Gladstone, Australia.

http://skytruth.mediatools.org…

Searching the web for functional oil shale plants brings up only a few pictures and stories about Estonia and also Australia and Germany, which have small electrical plants that use oil shale.  But it’s a dirty fuel.

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This is the type of place I suspect Republican Tom McClintock is getting his energy information from:

  http://www.energyandcapital.co…

August 15th, 2008

U.S. oil production has been spiraling downward for the last 40 years.

But there’s one area that’s just starting to heat up…

Locals call it “The Bakken.” It’s a behometh oil reserve stretching across North Dakota, Montana and southeastern Saskatchewan… a basin so massive it contains 10 times more barrels of oil than Alaska’s North Slope.

The U.S. Geological Survey has reported the Bakken Formation could hold more than 400 billion barrels of recoverable oil!

Until recent years, the technology simply wasn’t available to economically extract the oil from the Bakken shales. But with breakthrough techniques such as horizontal drilling, the full potential of the Bakken play can now be developed.

And unlike Northern Canada’s oil sands, the Bakken’s oil can be extracted relatively cheap, without the use of energy intensive processes.

The next oil boom is already upon us.

And, considering that oil prices are likely to remain above $100 a barrel, the time for shock is over. Investors are now faced with an unprecedented opportunity to play the U.S. and Canada’s new hottest oil stocks… several of which are poised to make 300% gains during 2008.

And McClintock probably sees this type of “come on” as justified:


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Old Western Proverb

___ The Conclusion, or PTL and pass the whiskey

Tom McClintock ran in the CA governor’s recall race in 2003 and came in 3rd.  The recall of Gov Gray Davis and his replacement by a Republican governor Schwarzenegger was instigated by ENRON manipulating the electrical market in CA so there was both spiking electrical rates and rolling blackouts, which Gov. Davis got the blame for. The reason ENRON was able to manipulate the energy market was that the Republicans had convinced the CA state legislature to deregulate the electrical energy generating business, using the guise that the “free market” would let consumers pick which electric company they wanted to do business with, as if electricity was just like any other thing one buys at a store, and the competition would force companies to offer cheaper rates.

Well, we here in California saw how that turned out.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E…   The Enron Scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E…   California’s Deregulation and Enron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C… California electricity crisis of 2000- 01


In October 2000, Daniel Scotto, the top ranked utility analyst on Wall Street, suspended his ratings on all energy companies conducting business in California due to the unlikely probability that the companies would receive full and adequate compensation for the deferred energy accounts used as the cornerstone for the California Deregulation Plan enacted in the late 1990s. Five months later, Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) was forced into bankruptcy. Senator Phil Gramm, the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Enron, succeeded in legislating California’s energy commodity trading deregulation. Despite warnings from prominent consumer groups which stated that this law would give energy traders too much influence over energy commodity prices, the legislation was passed in December 2000.

As Public Citizen reported, “Because of Enron’s new, unregulated power auction, the company’s ‘Wholesale Services’ revenues quadrupled-from $12 billion in the first quarter of 2000 to $48.4 billion in the first quarter of 2001.”[7]

Before passage of the deregulation law, there had been only one Stage 3 rolling blackout declared. Following passage, California had a total of 38 blackouts defined as Stage 3 rolling blackouts, until federal regulators intervened in June 2001. These blackouts occurred mainly as a result of a poorly designed system that was manipulated by traders and marketers. Enron traders were revealed as intentionally encouraging the removal of power from the market during California’s energy crisis by encouraging suppliers to shut down plants to perform unnecessary maintenance, as documented in recordings made at the time.[8] These acts contributed to the need for rolling blackouts, which adversely affected many businesses dependent upon a reliable supply of electricity, and inconvenienced a large number of retail consumers.

 

Senator Phil Gramm has been Republican Candidate John McCain’s economic advisor during the present Presidential campaign. What a delightful coincidence !

It’s not a coincidence that once again Republican Tom McClintock is attempting to vault himself into another higher political office based on voter dissatisfaction with higher fuel prices and the myth that he cares anything about it.

So here is the man once again huckstering more phony ideas.


We in the Reality Based Community Now Know Better. Remember:

Shale oil cannot be made into the regular gasoline we use now because it lacks the same hydrocarbon structure.

Shale oil is much more inefficient to make and use that coal oil, because shale rock is a much lower grade of raw material than coal.

Shale oil only approaches price parity with other hydrocarbon petrofuels if the other petrofuels are already extremely expensive.

Shale oil is a hydocarbon fuel, dirtier than coal, and using it will release more CO2 into the atmosphere. It will contribute to smog.

Shale oil mining requires water the west doesn’t have to spare, and risks polluting vital aquifers.

Shale oil takes 3 years of baking underground at temps 3 times hotter than it takes to make cupcakes before you even get any raw oil out !

So even if the private companies start mining it, there is no financial incentive to let the stuff become too cheap, or they lose money on it because it is an unusually long term investment and mining process. But right now, there is a real feeding frenzy trying to drive up prices for speculators. And some companies certainly would be trying to get government research subsidies or sweet deals on leases on federal lands.  Including some very good friends of VP Dick Cheney.  And some politicians would certainly be trying to get more oil company campaign contributions. Like Tom McClintock.

So much for that “relieving the price at the pump theory”.  Republican blackmail again, anybody ?  Didn’t we already do this in 2003 ?

Nicole Parra, The Door. The Door, Nicole Parra

Yesterday, when the Assembly mustered a simple majority but not a 2/3 vote for the Democratic budget plan, Yacht Dog Democrat Nicole Parra did not cast a vote.  She has said that she would not vote for a budget unless it included a water bond for the November ballot.

Actions have consequences.

In the latest episode of Capitol punishment, Assembly Speaker Karen Bass tossed Assemblywoman Nicole Parra from her office on Monday morning after the Central Valley Democrat failed to vote for the budget on Sunday.

In a twist, Parra hasn’t been reassigned to more cramped quarters in the Capitol itself – but booted straight across the street to the Legislative Office Building. She will be the only member of the Legislature whose office is not housed in the Capitol.

“I knew going in Sunday that if I didn’t support the budget, something was going to happen,” Parra, D-Hanford, said in an interview shortly after receiving the news. The budget, now 49 days late, failed 45-30, with 54 votes needed for passage.

The state Assembly’s chief administrative officer informed Parra of the change shortly before noon and gave her staff until late afternoon to clear out of the office, she said.

“Boxes have been delivered,” said Parra, who added that she was unhappy she would be unable to pack her “personal stuff” because the Assembly was in session and she was on the floor.

Move her into Storage B for all I care.  Parra, who has all but endorsed a Republican to succeed her in the 30th Assembly district when her term ends in November, is putting her own interests above the needs of the state.  Water is obviously a crucial issue to the Central Valley but there are a variety of opinions on how to best deal with it.  There are no other Democrats in the Central Valley intending to hijack the state budget.  Parra, in short, is a selfish Yacht Dog who is comfortable with drawing attention to herself and being a media darling and uncomfortable with moving the state forward.

The quotes in the piece of Todd Spitzer coming to Parra’s defense are fairly nauseating, too.  Parra is done as a viable electoral prospect in the Democratic Party.  And when Fran Florez wins in November, we’ll at least have some leadership in the 30th Assembly district.  In my mind, that’ll be a pickup.

Props to Speaker Bass

The Speaker won’t tolerate patheticness:

In the latest episode of Capitol punishment, Assembly Speaker Karen Bass tossed Assemblywoman Nicole Parra from her office on Monday morning after the Central Valley Democrat failed to vote for the budget on Sunday.

In a twist, Parra hasn’t been reassigned to more cramped quarters in the Capitol itself – but booted straight across the street to the Legislative Office Building. She will be the only member of the Legislature whose office is not housed in the Capitol.

Love it! But don’t worry, Parra is acting quite mature in her budget negotiations:

“Is it worth it? Yes,” Parra said.

“If there’s no future for water, then let’s pave over the Central Valley and let’s import all our food,” she added.

I think Bass should start running local ads that Parra told the Sacramento Bee she wanted to pave over the Central Valley. What suggests do you have on how Karen Bass can stop the wankers from splintering the caucus?

High-speed train means more jobs for Californians

California currently has an unemployment rate of 6.9% as of June 2008. That is the highest it has been since October 2003. (source: bls.gov) With the current downward trend in our nation’s economy not to mention our own state’s, something drastic needs to be done to change the outcome. The proposed new high-speed train system is just the kind of project to help revitalize the California’s job market. Moreover, it will put money into people’s pock it and it will not tax them on the back end.

How is this possible you ask? Well, here is how.

  • The new proposed high-speed rail will create 160,000 new constructions jobs with building expected to start in 2011.* * 450,000 new permanent jobs will be created because of the high-speed train system. These jobs will come from industries directly related to the new train as well as from revitalization projects designed to improve the new high-speed train system.*
  • Taxpayers will not be paying for tickets as well subsidizing the train system like AMTRAK is currently run. This new train is expected to generate $1 billion in annual revenue surplus without tax dollars
  • Right now Californians are wasting $20 billion a year in fuel costs and wasted time from sitting in traffic.

The high-speed train will also work to reduce the congestion at airports, by creating a cheaper and faster way to commute in California without the need for gas guzzling airplanes.While this plan is already in full swing, help is needed. In order to ensure that in November this plan is jump-started Californians for High-Speed Trains needs your help. In order to make sure each and every Californian knows how important this project is please go to their site and make a donation. *

source:cahighspeedrail.ca.gov

Schwarzenegger Helps Launch EcoDriving Campaign, Embarrasses McCain

It wasn’t too long ago that the McCain campaign tried desperately to mock the Obama suggestion that people would be well served to keep their tires inflated properly in order to get better gas mileage. They went so far as to send out a fundraising email offering a “free” tire gauge in exchange for a donation to the campaign. They asked “[w]ill simply inflating your tires reduce the financial burden of high gas prices on your wallet?”

Turns out, the answer from every corner is yes. To the point that McCain had to back off it entirely and concede that it’s probably a good idea to properly maintain one’s car.

But as McCain and other Republican leaders continue to push the ridiculous on its face notion that only increased offshore drilling can address the current energy challenges in this country, Automobile Manufacturers and our own Governor Schwarzenegger are lining up to push car maintenance and better driving habits as a simple way to ease the hit at the pump. He was even good enough to put a video together to promote the new EcoDriving campaign. Echoing Obama’s statements on the issue, Schwarzenegger says in part, “You can reduce your fuel costs by more than 15%. And I am talking about simple things, like proper tire pressure, avoiding rapid starts and stops, and keeping your engine tuned.”

This is admittedly a mixed bag. Better driving habits and car maintenance does have a significant impact on gas mileage, and the more attention this gets, the more likely it is that consumers will receive the message. But it’s also incumbent upon auto makers and others to not use this as a cop out on their responsibility to keep working towards more eco-friendly cars. Informing consumers is fantastic, passing the buck to consumers in not. Either way, especially in a car-centric state like California this is a nice step.

(over)

It also serves as yet another reminder that consistently, nobody agrees with John McCain. He tries to belittle the advantages of better driving habits and gets smacked down by the people who know- AAA and car makers. He tries to run on his foreign policy brilliance and even tried to claim that Obama “has now adopted John McCain’s position” on Iraq. Which was almost immediately met by Iraqi Prime Minister al-Maliki saying McCain’s Iraq plan “would cause problems” as he endorsed Obama’s plan for withdrawal over 16 months. Which left McCain with the embarrassingly sad response: 16 months is now “a pretty good timetable.”

Every time McCain tries to lead on an issue, he’s promptly smacked down by the tag team of Obama and reality. If McCain hadn’t made such an absurd deal out of proper tire inflation, nobody would have said anything about it and we likely wouldn’t have a national push from auto makers advocating better driving habits led by one of McCain’s most valuable allies. But here we are, and McCain is left, once again, looking out of touch and unprepared to deal with the world as it is.

The Washington Post Gets It All Wrong

Californians know how important a second stimulus is, which is why it is so frustrating when publications closer to the city where these decisions are made fail to understand or simply neglect many of the facts associated with a second stimulus package.

Last week the Washington Post Editorial Board came out with an editorial blasting a second stimulus package as an unnecessary election year ploy:

We understand the political logic of a second stimulus; the economic case is less convincing. Any fiscal stimulus must be targeted, timely and temporary. That is, it must put money in the hands of people who are likely to spend it quickly — while not committing the federal government to new long-term spending.

Naturally to make their case the Ed Board selectively picks and chooses which parts of the stimulus package to highlight.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has called for a $50 billion package, possibly including increases in food stamps and home heating assistance as well as more Medicaid money for states and new infrastructure spending. Fleshing out Ms. Pelosi’s concept, Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) has unveiled $24 billion in proposed energy, infrastructure and disaster relief money.

We’ll move beyond the fact that many people think supplemental medicaid funding is a really good idea to the more pressing point; the Wapo Editorial Board failed to mention or mention only in passing two plans that many experts say should be the staples of any second stimulus package; aid to states and infrastructure spending. AWall Street Journal article from last month (subscription only) shows Congressional leaders getting on board with the idea so I am lost as to why it received no attention in the Op Ed:

The bill, which would likely include spending on road projects and aid to stated, isn’t expected to come up in the House until September

We proved earlier this year that stimulus checks on their own are not the solution to the nation’s economic woes. However not recognizing the obvious need for help that states have been screaming about over the last several months is just irresponsible. Not to mention their editorial reads just barely on the sane side of illogical.

Their suggestion that we don’t know the effects of the first stimulus yet is asinine. The Post even admitted this on Thursday. On page 10 of the Washington Post Express they ran an article entitled “Stimulus Checks Run Out”

Analysts said retail sales would have been more feeble without the $92 billion in rebate payments the government sent out in May, June, and July. Those checks helped to counter plunging home prices, rising unemployment, and soaring gasoline prices.

The bulk mailings are now over, though, leaving economists worried about what will happen next.

WaPo can’t have it both ways. They can’t report that the stimulus checks are running out but then opine that we shouldn’t have a second stimulus because we don’t know the effects of the first.

And sure gas prices have been falling over the last couple of weeks, but today’s national average for a gallon of gasoline is still $3.77. Am I glad its down from the high of $4.11 that we saw in mid July? Yes. Am I convinced that this means I don’t have to worry about gas destroying my wallet? Absolutely not.

According to the Fuel Gauge Report, gas is still $4.07 in California where their budget crisis has gotten so bad that over 200,000 state employees had their pay rolled back to minimum wage. It’s $3.89 in Michigan, where unemployment is skyrocketing. Its $3.98 in New York where Governor Patterson has been forced to slash medicaid by $500 million this year and $1 billion next year. The relief at the pump will be short lived because state governments don’t have the resources to ensure normal citizens won’t feel the pain of floundering state economies.

The Washington Post should know better. After all, the situation is going from bad to worse in their own back yard. A Richmond Times Dispatch article has Governor Kaine says the budget shortfall could surpass $1 billion. This coming on the heals of cutting $2 billion out of the budget this year. He says he’s going to apply the same formula:

Kaine said he probably would apply the same basic principles to the next round of economies that he did previously — to not cut across the board but target more precisely areas that can be reduced. Some lawmakers and lobbyists aren’t sure that’s possible.

I’m not sure thats possible either. There are a limited number of areas that can be reduced before you start having to cut education, public safety, health, and other essential services. We may be months away from the endgame, but counties and cities are bracing for the worst.

“We expect, and are preparing for, very bad news,” said Michael L. Edwards, a lobbyist for the Virginia Association of Counties.

What the Washington Post fails to understand is that dealing with the nations economic problems has to go beyond fixes for the individual. I would love to receive another check in the mail but it’s not what’s going to fix this thing. The real solutions lie in federal aid to the states and spending on infrastructure, two moves that will help states who are being forced to make dramatic cuts to essential services and potentially create jobs in states were there are far two few of them. These solutions received little to no attention in the Op Ed, which is really the biggest flaw of all in the piece.

Prison Crisis: $8 Billion Hit Machine

Right now, KQED is hosting a program regarding the prison crisis. You can listen live here. They have the receiver, J. Clark Kelso, and two senators, George Runner(R) and Mike Macahado(D). Of course, Runner sits there and talks about how he wants to create an overall prison solution, but fails to mention how he is going about systemically ruining the system.

Last week, Mr. Kelso sought to take $8 Billion from the budget over the next few years:

The court-appointed overseer for healthcare in state prisons moved Wednesday to seize $8 billion from the California treasury, asking a federal judge to hold Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and California Controller John Chiang in contempt of court. With the state mired in fiscal crisis, J. Clark Kelso, the federal receiver, asked U.S. District Judge Thelton Henderson to force officials to turn over the money he says he needs to raise healthcare in the state’s prisons to constitutional standards after years of neglect.

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“We have fully explored and exhausted every avenue for securing this funding in a manner that least affects California’s budget and immediate cash needs,” Kelso said. “But the state’s leaders have failed to act.”(LA Times 8/18/08)

Kelso has a monumental task in the prison fiasco, so this Forum on the issue is worth a listen. If you miss the show, you can catch the podcast here.

Progressive Dems of LA vote NO on Prop 11

 

PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS OF LOS ANGELES

August 18, 2008

Los Angeles



Progressive Democrats of LA VOTES NO on SCHWARZENEGGER’S PROP 11 Redistricting

Progressive Democrats of Los Angeles voted overwhelmingly to OPPOSE the Proposition 11 redistricting initiative on the November ballot. Their endorsement committee voted UNANIMOUSLY to recommend opposing it, because the complex measure will result in Republicans taking control of the redistricting agenda.

This constitutional amendment would apply only to the state offices of Assembly, Senate, and Board of Equalization. Congressional districts would not be affected.

An analysis of the measure follows. It is NOT an easy read, but it is extremely important. Democrats who have a large registration plurality would LOSE that and Republicans would be given equal representation on a citizens commission in spite of their rapidly declining registration.  In addition, voting requirements on the commission would result in gridlock when Republicans and Democrats do not agree. At this point, the decision goes to the CA Supreme Court with 6 of the 7 justices having been appointed by Republican governors.

Proposition 11 is funded by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, lobbyists, corporations and big business. One of the main committees named “Voters First” has several underlying committees, such as New Majority California PAC and Project Democracy.  Another listed for Common Cause had a substantial contribution from “Voters First,” the governor’s committee.

Analysis by Linda Sutton, Co-Chair of the PDLA Endorsement Committee:

TRUTH NOW on Proposition 11…

… the fake redistricting reform brought to you by Gov. Schwarzenegger and his wrong-wing Republican gang

THIS DIARY FOLLOWS WITHIN MY POSTINGS.

Gary Pritchard Offers Real Leadership In South Orange County

The 33rd District has a chance to elect a great new leader in the State Senate this year. With the problems that face our district and state, new common-sense leadership is desperately needed. Gary Prithchard is an educator, and a respected member of the community. He offers a new vision, and will fight to represent the 33rd district and insure that our voices will be heard.  

Gary has an impressive resume to point to:

I’m a 37 year old California native who was born in the Central Valley town of Bakersfield and raised near the southern entrance of Yosemite National Park.

I now live in Aliso Viejo with Heather my supportive spouse of 10 years and Charlotte our exuberant five year old daughter..

I am a dedicated educator in the public school system. I completed college in Southern California where I attended Chapman University, the Claremont Graduate School, UCLA, and UCI. I hold a Ph.D. in the Social Sciences and am a tenured professor in the Fine Arts and Communication Division of Cerritos College where I have taught since 1999. In the summer, I am also a lecturer at UCI.

http://garypritchard08.com/?pa…

Gary would fight for Fiscal Responsibility, and for Transparency and Responsibility in our Government:

Transparency and responsibility are the first priorities. Every resident should have access to how their taxes are spent in the State of California. It should also be easy to understand and to know who exactly was responsible for parts of the budget and who put forth earmark spending. Fiscal responsibility is imperative at all times, the good and the bad. Why doesn’t the State currently have a surplus from when our economy was booming? Important revenues were cut and spending was expanded without any regard for unforeseen future economic circumstances. Would the average household not prepare for hard times by saving when times are good? Should we not expect the same common sense approach in our Government by demanding our legislature treat our money like theirs?

http://garypritchard08.com/?pa…

Gary has compiled an impressive list of endorsments in this race:

State

The California Democratic Party

California State Treasurer

California Labor Federation, AFL-CIO

Orange County

Anaheim Democratic Club

Democratic Party of Orange County

Democracy for America, Orange County

North Orange County Democratic Club

Progressive Women in North Orange County

Debra Carrillo, Deputy DA and Candidate for OC Superior Court Judge

Debbie Cook, Mayor of Huntington Beach

Sharon Quirk, Mayor of Fullerton

Pamela Keller, Fullerton City Councilwoman

John Hanna, RSCCD Trustee

Michael Matsuda, NOCCD Trustee

Unions

California School Employees Union, Chapter 161

Cerritos College Faculty Federation – AFT Local 6215

International Brotherhood of Teamsters, California

Orange County Employees Association

United Auto Works, Region Five

We need a State Senator like Gary who will fight for balanced solutions to our difficult problems instead of brushing them off or getting them trapped in legislative gridlock.

Please support Gary, and a better future for California’s 33rd District here:

http://www.actblue.com/entity/…

CA-46: Palos Verdes meet ‘n’ greet

So today I drove back down to my old stomping grounds of Palos Verdes to see Debbie Cook’s “ice cream social” at the lovely Hesse Park.  Admittedly, the crowd was mostly older folks, and I felt a bit out of place.  The head of the Palos Verdes Democratic Club opened with a joke about how Democrats do exist in Palos Verdes, which people chuckled at.  I mean, surface appearances would make you think P.V. was 100% Republican.

Anyway, not only was Debbie Cook there, but the people running for the state assembly and senate were there also.  (The Democratic incumbents in those seats are term-limited out.)  Rod Wright, who worked for Maxine Waters, is running for the State Senate, and Beth Loewenthal, a member of the Long Beach City Council, is running for the State Assembly.  Both should be elected when all is said and done; the districts seem to be more or less safe for Democrats.

Some rambling thoughts from me after the fold.

And in a surprise to me, someone who was recently on TV was there too.  Watch this clip from the Colbert Report last month about Donald Trump’s huge flagpole.  (No, really.)

Well, I had no idea, but Rancho Palos Verdes mayor Doug Stern is actually a Democrat!  And he was there to introduce Debbie, and made mention of appearing on the show, where they took a 2-hour interview with him and cut it down to about 2 minutes.  In fact, three members of the RPV City Council are Democrats.  You could have knocked me over with a feather.  Growing up there, finding a Democrat in P.V. was like going on a snipe hunt.

From what I gathered talking to several folks, the biggest chance is on social stances.  Even just a decade ago, it was simply unheard of for a high school kid in P.V. to come out of the closet.  And now, it’s no longer a big deal in P.V.  If you haven’t lived there, you won’t realize how big of a sea change just that actually is.

Anyway, the candidates all spoke about themselves briefly, before the audience asked some questions.  From what I can remember….

Rod Wright is a very engaging speaker, and delivered some great lines.  One of them that he picked up in church was, “Everyone wants to get into Heaven, but nobody wants to die.”  Cook said she may use that line to talk about getting ourselves off of fossil fuels.  🙂

Debbie Cook was very pragmatic and wasn’t sugar-coating anything for the crowd.  She said that to truly wean ourselves off of fossil fuels, we were going to have to make sacrifices.  I can’t remember the exact words (sorry, short term memory here), but she was the opposite of one of those “elect me and everything will be better” politicians.  She’s a tough realist when it comes to our energy problems.  Wright also chimed in, saying that if you think you’re helping the environment by driving a car with ethanol, you’re only fooling yourself.  Ethanol is simply not the answer.  Even as a short-term solution, it’s not a good thing.

One of the speakers mentioned that Props. 6 & 8 are designed to drive up the Republican vote in November, and that it was no coincidence both of those are on the ballot, that this is a strategy by the GOP to get the social conservatives out to the polls.  Now while they said “California is not a slam dunk” for Democrats, well……  But where it could have devastating effects is on downticket races.  Will the presence of those two propositions be enough to get enough Republicans to the polls that Debbie Cook can’t win?  Or Charlie Brown?  Russ Warner?  What about that state assembly seat we want to pick up?  That’s where these initiatives could cause us problems, and we’ll have to counteract that with our own massive GOTV effort.

Cook said she spent most of Thursday filming TV commercials, and now just needs the money to get them on the air.  The bottom line to getting her message out is still $$$.  That’s just how it is.

One fellow asked how we could tell the national Democratic Party to wake up when it comes to offshore drilling.  Debbie had a great answer: “Send me to Congress!”  But everyone agreed there that from now until November, for those currently in Congress, it’s basically a lost cause.  The head of the San Pedro Democratic Club said that we simply have to make our voices heard, from calling our representatives to writing letters to the editor.

A great analogy Debbie Cook used when talking about offshore drilling was comparing it to finding loose change on the ground to help pay for your mortgage.  I suggested to her afterwards that instead of loose change on the ground, how about loose change underneath the couch cushions, and ripping up the upholstery to get to it?  She said her husband had suggested the same analogy.  Great minds, ya know.  😎

One thing that pleasantly surprised me was finding out that in 2004, when the high school kids in P.V. held a mock election, Kerry did beat Bush.  Coming from Palos Verdes, again, let me stress, that is a sea change.  Although in 2006, when asked about party affiliation, the numbers I heard were that 60% of P.V. high school kids still considered themselves Republican, with 40% Democrats.  So old habits die hard.

Anyway, seeing all those fine folks from P.V. made me more optimistic.  I’ve always maintained that P.V. would be the toughest nut to crack, given the long-standing Republican tilt of the district.  Remember, Rohrabacher himself went to high school here.  But events like today give me some hope.